Title: Life & Death
Teaching Date: 1995-05-14
Teacher Name: Gelek Rimpoche
Teaching Type: Workshop
File Key: 19950513GRJHNLSL/19950514GRJHNLSL 4.mp3
Location: Netherlands
Level 1: Beginning
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If it means something that works with yourself , then in that case it’s almost creation of your own consciousness. If it means by establishment, then probably you have not so much to do with that. It’s established by itself. That’s not right, but without you, it creates there. Then, what was the third question you put? Bring into existence. You did not contribute to bringing it into existence but you did. You did not directly contribute to the existence itself. And somehow, you’ve got something to do with the existence because there’s a common karma which also contributes to it. But then there’s another very questionable point, questionable as well as unquestionable which is Dharmakirti’s point in saying
0:01:44.4 (quotes Tibetan). So Dharmakirti pointed out metals can not be mind, mind can not be become metal. That’s there, but that’s big group of people will accept this is absolute authentic and use this to prove previous, past and present and future lives’ existence, followed by the
(Tibetan quote 0:02:34.7) So, therefore the mind has the continuation of mind. yesterday’s mind is the continuation of the day before’s and
(word ? charles?0:02:46.0) and so and forth, and birth and bardo and the previous birth. That’s how one way to trace looking into the reincarnation business . That’s one way of looking at it.
03:10.4. . But then, there’s another point, another point where really can be we go off. You know, the metal and mind can contribute to each other and there’s a very very strong point in that. I have no answer but these are the points I like to raise up, and so that if you are thinking , if you are looking at it, if you are meditating or these are the wisdom part of the practice actually. It is always very important not to make quick decisions. Like you know you can read these, mind works with the mind and metal doesn’t become metal and you know. that sort of thing and then you make a final decision on that. You say,
( 0:04:40.3 words ?” )As a matter of fact, a lot of people do. A lot of teachers do. And that might be a quick decision so anyway, they’re there. So two tough questions in the morning, so that’s fine. It’s a good thing , a really good thing. I’m glad you people are thinking. Actually, if you’re seeking liberation, that’s the way how it goes. Any other questions? No questions? Yeah, (Yudo? 0:05:54.40) Hah. How come there’s still questions?
0:06:01.2 (question is inaudible) because we’re not liberated. (question inaudible). GR: Good question. The answer to this is called good question. I like to say one thing to you. There’s a lot of people who will say, “Ha . Truth is one . If this is true, that should not be true . Truth is one. Do you think that too? Yeah. It has to be right. If it’s truth, it’s truth. If it’s truth, it’s truth. The other one can not be truth , right? So, for your information, sir, Buddha doesn’t agree with you. So Buddha always presents two truths. There’s a relative truth and absolute truth
(Tibetan quote 0:07:28.3) So, the Buddha says, Buddha establishes found as the two truths, by his own personal experience and he did not agree with the third truth , though he said four Noble Truths. (Laughs) . I’m just joking . That’s two different points.
( Tibetan quote 0:07:58.2). So, didn’t I hear there’s somebody who’s reading 70 verses of emptiness by Nagarjuna? Is it here? No. Or Ratnamala the Jewel Ornament not
(Tibetan name’s 0:08:37.0) Lam Rim but Nagarjuna’s Jewel…? Nobody , right. Maybe it’s New York. Sorry. Anyway, this is the way it comes out,
(Tibetan quote 0:08:48.7). I think it’s here. Somebody told me yesterday.
0:09:00.0 It’s not you. I thought somebody told me yesterday. (name) was not here yesterday. Ok. Anyway, it doesn’t matter whoever. This is why it comes out.
(Tibetan quote 0:09:23.9) So, the Buddha did not learn from another person. There’s the two truths and he felt and experienced and understood and acknowledged.
(Tibetan quote 0:09:51.4) So what Buddha had discovered the truth on everything is there’s a relative truth and an absolute truth. So there is no third truth at all. So, that’s the word . So that makes it difficult because Enlightened ones cannot tell everything because there’s two truths. Even
( if it did? 0:10:32.), it doesn’t work. We don’t get the message. I think that’s what it is. So. All right. Any other questions? Yeah.
(inaudible question 0:10:55.7 ) Do the two truths have anything to do in its principle? Translator: The third principle. Gr: Oh, you mean to say, are they related, Nirvana will experience one truth and Samsara experience another truth? No. No, because truth is truth , whether it is in Nirvana or in Samsara, truth doesn’t change. But there’s two truths, relative truth and absolute truth. Both will not change. If it changes, you lose one. If you lose one, you’re wrong. And the example here is Chandikirti has given0:12:01.4 This translation has been very helpful because I get the opportunity to think. (laughter). (Tibetan quote 0:12:23.5) In the Chandikirti’s (Tibetan title 0:12:36.1)
Madhyamaka
( word- Avatara…? 0:12:50.7) Yeah. You’re right. Madhyamka. That’s a Sanskrit name . Dbu Ma Pa (?) is the Tibetan name meaning it is following the central or the middle path. Following or explaining the middle path. So, it is a famous Buddhist metaphor which says, “When the bird flies across the ocean, it needs two wings. “ And this is what the two truths . If you only have one wing, and if you don’t have the other one, you circle it, you don’t go, cut it. And, also, another famous Buddhist metaphor for this, also, you know when the moon shines and every lake and every (body of) water in the world has a reflection. And in absolute truth, there’s only one moon, but in relative truth, there’s every reflection of the moon in every (body of) water. All of these are used by Zen a lot. It’s a very famous Buddhist metaphor. And also, it is very similar to the activity of the Enlightened beings. So, if you lose one of the truths, the activity of the Enlightened beings has been limited. All right, you’re both vegetarian.
0:15:03.0. Are you vegetarian? You are! (laughter) So, that is the truth laugh. (laughter) Ok, go ahead.
(inaudible question 0:15:28.2) Truth changes, but truth does not become untruth. See, this is the point. Ok. So, let us change the subject . Maybe are going too much on the philosophical point. There may be a lot of other people getting bored. All right. So, did you raise your hand?
(inaudible question 0:16:37.6) Good question but two truths I don’t think become dualistic. I think it’s dualistic we just mentioned earlier perceiving, the perceiver. What do you perceive? What are you perceiving? And on that matter, I think the question of the dualistic really comes in it. And
(Tibetan quote 0:17:39.0). When you invoke the implication of any thing during the invocation you read
(Tibetan quote 0:18:10.9), like the Manjushri nature is the nature of all phenomena.
(Tibetan quote 0:18:19.1) It is like that of the sky when there’s no
(word? no coming or going? 0:18:29.6)
(Tibetan quote 0:18:31.4). So, it is also like that of the reflection of the moon in the water. Nothing goes, nothing comes. When you look at the mirror, you get reflection but you don’t get inside the mirror and look out. You don’t come out of mirror and look back. You don’t do that, so you know you look at the mirror . You get your reflection. You don’t have to go inside the mirror to look from this side, so probably these are the ideas of dualistic., non-dualistic. My feeling is.
0:19:16.1 laughter Dutch translator: I’m asking her to tell what she picked up as the answer , not to tease you but. GR: I know it is difficult but let it be and those who have heard it in English, I think it is, we’ll make it brief. You know dualistic probably does not really, if you look at the mirror, and you see your reflection there but you don’t have to go inside the mirror to get the
( word- keep?) that 0:19:56.9 expression but you’re standing here, you can get that but if you think they are two separate beings, two separate me, one in here, one in there is dualistic. But if there’s one here, you’re just looking at the mirror, you get a reflection and you see this as one person. It’s probably non-dualistic. Make that easy that way. Yes.
(Tibetan 0:21:09.3) It’s like transparent. If you put a glass on your palm, you see the glass, you see the palm writings. Like that manner, Buddha sees the relative truth and the absolute truth simultaneously together but the mind of the Buddha who are cognized with the relative truth, in that cognition itself, you don’t have that absolute truth. And the mind which cognized with the absolute truth, in that mind itself, there is no relative truth. However, Buddha says relative truth and absolute truth are one mind. This is again a dualistic of dualisticness . That’s what it becomes. (laughter) I’m sorry. Dutch translator: I’m sorry too. GR: I don’t blame you. This definitely….
0:22:12.0. OK. Now, let’s go to on this point, Ok, because a lot of people may be wondering what’s going on, so actually, you should be happy. You know why? This is the absolute wisdom and you’re probably not going to talk about it unless those questions are raised and that’s why, at least you heard about it. I know Carrol is boiling with a question. OH, no? Ok, fine. (laughter) You’ll be the last person. Otherwise, you’ve got to let me do something too. So, you’re the last person. Question is inaudible (0:23:36.0) Absolutely right. 100% right. True. Absolutely right. How to live , how to have a good death depends on how you live.
0:24:05.4
How to live is very important. That is the essence of all practice. At least from the Buddhist point of view, it’s the essence of all practice. And that is something else. It will come , whether you like it or not. And if you know what’s happening, it’s a little better. It doesn’t mean that death is more important than living. Living is much more important than dying. True, and that’s what it is. But, death has a lot of opportunity. It is a short period, it is a very subtle mind, the absolute all interferences, during your attentions, are absolutely chopped off. So, it is almost the most concentrated. By the nature of death itself, you have no choice but to focus. You know, our attractions are the gross mind. Right? We see a beautiful girl. We look, hey. We hear nice music. We say, Hah! And we feel good taste, we keep on eating it again. We touch something. It feels good. You touch again right? So, these are the attractions . They’re normally brought by the gross mind. And what you’re doing to the subtle mind, is going like this, all the time. It’s getting all these messages.
0:27:02.9. On top of that, you turn on the television. And they will bombard you also with a million different information in 30 seconds. Bum Bum bum bum bum bum bum. So, make your mind like this. True. (laughter) You can do the same thing. This is universal language. So what does death do? Chop off all these gross attractions. Chop off. What do meditators do? Try to cut out and reduce and bring it in. So much so that even you hold your air in and try to meditate because air goes out and mind goes out. So try to hold it in and meditate. Even if you do that much, the monkey inside doesn’t stay still. It goes , you know. During the death period, the monkey doesn’t see it. The monkey doesn’t hear it. So, it is a very subtle point. And the subtle mind is stuck on whatever you think, whatever you concentrate on. So much so that some people even tell that death is in touch with the primordial mind. It could be true. Because I’m the one of the persons who believe that just because you’re in touch with the primordial mind, does not mean you’re liberated. Because with every death stage , you’re sort of in touch with the original primordial consciousness but then when you come out, you come out the same way. It’s like a mole. You know those animals called moles that go underneath the ground during the winter period. They remain in touch with nature down there. And they come out in summer as the same old mole, you know. Maybe a little more shiny or a little more clean or whatever. 0:30:42.7 But it is subtle. What do you think those meditators, yogis and the Tibetans, those early meditators get into caves and some of them even go down to the cave and shut the cave down and remain down there in darkness for 9 years or something. The Indian yogis make a hole in the ground and get in there and close the ground and remain down there for a long time. So, it is actually to try to gain a concentration, mental focus, chop off. You can’t take an eye out. You can’t cut your ear out . So, that’s why they get down there. So, isn’t it Greek or something? They have those labels. They count alpha, something, 12 different levels. Ah? Yeah. Alpha waves. They come down to 12 different levels down? I think it’s a Greek tradition.
0:32:07.2 Hah? Oh, Greek letters, Greek alphabet. They boil down to 12 different levels of mental state. I thought Greek tradition had that , the old Christian tradition of Kabbala and all this , people do that. I believe and that’s why the measurement came in. It doesn’t mean the machine they try to measure now, whether you are alpha level or
(word? 0:32:44.5) level or something. Doesn’t the machine, they try to measure that. Anyway, so all of those is the purpose of that is to try to gain concentration. I have a student, a friend, the woman named Sundalene. I did not know her. I forgot her, you know. So, she told me she met me in 1977. And that’s it, and I saw her like 4, 5 years ago in New York. There’s a center called The Open Center in NYC. There’s a bookstore in that Open Center. I was doing a workshop at The Open Center and I walked into the bookstore, and the bookstore had a window (facing) the outside. So, there were 2 women (who) walked in, saw me from the window, like this, and then came in. And 2 society ladies wearing mink coats. And asked me, “Aren’t you Gelek Rimpoche?” . I said yeah. I’m (name? 0:34:38.4) Sundalene. I met you in Texas in 77. (Remarks in Dutch and laughter). Whatever it is, that’s not my fault. Just joking.
0:35:02.3 In 77. And then she said, you taught me concentration and she along with another man called Brother Charles , so they developed the sitting on this and they said 12 years of meditation level of they measure with Greek letters down, so 12 steps down , 12 years of meditation level they can be providing within a very short period. So, they are the idea behind who’s making these machines. You know you wear those glasses and jupe jupe jupe jupe jupe jupe. These are the people who may (or made?
0:35:47.4 be behind that. So, she told me I can bring them in now. “I’ve been looking for you. I’ve completely lost contact with you.” Now, the second question is next what? And I said, “I don’t know. I have no idea”. So, she’s doing this with big corporations, General Motors and Ford and IBM and all these. She goes there and gives lectures to those workers, and puts on the machines , puts on the music and so that’s what she’s been doing. So, and that’s another way to really cut down your attractions out. So you’re concentrated. When you’re concentrated, you pick up more. One of the reasons, when you pick up information, you meditate, or you study, whatever you do , do it for a short period. Unfortunately, we have to sit here for hours and hours because we have a limited time, you know? But what you really have to do is very short period. If you do a short period, and your mind is alert, you focus , you pick up. Whether it is mediation, unless you’re trained, you know. If you’re trained, then it’s different.
0:38:07.4 . If you’re not trained, do very short periods because of your focus. You’ll pick up. You’ll remember and you’ll make use of it. If you go on and on and on with so much information, you won’t pick up and you put in hours and hours to do something , doesn’t really get it done much. And that’s the reason why that’s important. Equally important. I did not say that is more important than living. OK. Let’s do a little bit of work now. So, in the principles of the 4 Noble Truths, we worked yesterday. Basically we have covered quite a lot of the first Noble Truth. Ok, so now, the question is whatever problem you may have, particularly mind problems, mental problems. I’m not talking about craziness, people go crazy.
(that) 0:39:51.8 I’m talking about . I’ve been wondering did I share last during the Tara period breathing and looking at the sunset and breathing out? I didn’t share that. All right. So, remind me later, OK? We’ll do that at the part of the Third Truth. Ok, now whatever problems that we face, mental, emotional, especially those that we call guilt feelings .
0:41:02.7 Ah, mental emotional problems, all of them. There is no . It’s not that there is no way out. The very fact, the very logical reason is that all thees problems are impermanent. So, it absolutely changes, so it is impermanent. It is changeable. So, therefore, there is always a way out. And never think you’re doomed. OK? That is a very important point. I did talk about guilt last time. I’m not going to talk today. I do remember I did talk but again, to remind you I’m absolutely a non-believer of guilt. And no one can try to play a guilt trip with me. If anybody wants to, you’re wasting your time. That’s a joke. (laughs). Anyway, so one of the reasons , when there’s a way out, there is a temporary way out and there’s a permanent way out. The temporary way out is of course, you have the psychotherapeutic treating, the doctors giving medication, and exercise, and all these and these . All of them are a temporary way out. They will all fall under this Noble Truth. Now, permanently when you get out, this is our aim, is how to get out permanently forever, once and for all. It is important to remember once and for all because this is the life in which we can do.
0:44:17.6 Is Marianne
(last name-0:44:23.8) here today? Probably not here. If so, she would say, “I’m here.”. (laughs) You know why we can do this text ? So much opportunity. You know, you people should really appreciate the opportunity, what you have . I don’t know whether you do it or not . If you look at the Tibetans, how did they get Buddhism in Tibet, you ‘d go crazy. They took a tremendous amount of hardship, crossing the Himalayan mountains, where not a single human being has ever crossed, you know? And where you going to land and terrible hot hells, with all sorts of disease , the water you cannot drink, the air you cannot breathe. Unfortunately, the Indian air is even in those days the same thing. That’s what they described. Maybe you can’t blame totally to the modern industrial lives , society (laughs). But, it’s really true . So, all this and Tibetans really have out of the whole country only 21 people could go , 21 young people willing to go. Only a handful of them returned. They all died. And so, with all this hard work, with all these efforts, what they brought is this precious Buddha’s way of doing it.
0:47:08.6 . And then, they try to keep it pure, once you’ve got it, they have to keep it pure by blocking everybody out, for over 1,000 years. Depending on the
(word- smarts? 0:47:33.1) of people. But smart did not block the communist Chinese. So, they really had to protect this at the cost of the nation itself. So, the Tibet’s loss is the West’s gain. True. Tibet’s loss is the West’s gain. That’s true. The Tibetans have only this spiritual path to contribute to the world. And, I think we’re contributing quite well. Jewel Heart has been instrumental for me , for a lot. Not only for me, for a lot. So, anyway, that’s why you do have an incredible opportunity, not only the Tibetan spiritual path, your own traditional, the Judeo-Christian tradition. I just mentioned about the Kabbala and all this which is somehow dead for awhile. Is it dead? Not dead but somehow out of time or something. It’s anyway turned down, the mystical part of the Christian tradition is also there , tremendous, you know. You cannot ignore them. Unfortunately, the management of the Christian practice has become a little crowded* . I had a Christian Buddhist dialogue in Cleveland in a Shaker Heights Church. There’s about 3,000 people, and I told the management . I think he’s the Bishop, the guy’s who was dialoguing with me. He says , “You can get away by saying that I can not get away tomorrow. They’ll ask me a question. (Laughs)
0:50:35.9 It’s true. It’s not only contributed to the west . We’re also crowded* in the east too. Though all these monasteries , they’re there, quite a well crowded* too. Because years and years ago and you draw loyalty to the institution and you take it best, how to make it possible, how to make it successful, how best we can develop income and it’s nothing for personal. However, it’s totally devoted, dedicated. However, it’s
(word? 0:51:26.7) I very often say throughout the place, wherever I go . I say the Jewel Heart is here, but it comes for the interest of the Jewel Heart and the interests of the people who are in Jewel Heart to whom we’re dedicated to work, so what you have to sacrifice (for) is not the interest of the people, but the interests of Jewel Heart, and if Jewel Heart goes, the interest goes against the interests of the people. You have to close down Jewel Heart. This is the basic principle we’re committed to, all the time. At least, as far as I’m concerned. I put my foot down to do that. Why did we talk about this, anyway? What reason?
0:53:33.7 Oh, chances in our lives. And not only this, then also there is a lot of you know, today you can look at the phone book and almost see what spiritual path you can choose. And there’s a bombardment of advertisements, brochures and booklets and pictures and it’s almost like a multi -media function of spiritual war, not war, spiritual advertising, hitting on your consciousness , you know? Even here, look at here alone. I was here last weekend, the week before last. So,
(name- Gaye 0:54:36.0 Rimpoche’s here the week before last, I’m here today, and in a very short time Dhakpa Rimpoche will be here, so there’s opportunity. So they’re going to get all your money. That’s why I’m laughing. Anyway, while we got your money, so we might as well make a little work. So, such an opportunity when you’re having it, that’s this life. In addition to that, you have the capability of understanding it. In addition to that, you have not only the capability of picking up the information, you have the capability of digesting the information. Not only you have the capability of digesting the information. By digesting it, you can make it part of your life. As those who are vegetarians, so much they dedicated to be vegetarians by thinking, listening. And as much that you do as a vegetarian and similarly, you do with the Dharma. Actually, vegetarians, thinking you’re not going to hurt the animals or living beings is a good Dharma way of being.
0:57:04.7 Though I am anti-vegetarian (laughs). Just kidding. So this is how you cooperate the information that you’re taking in, and become a part of your practice. Believe me, practice does not rely to (on the) mala. And practice does not (depend) on the time you spend to sit down. The practice relies on your daily life from morning until evening, and evening till next morning. 24 hours circle of sleeping, getting up, drinking, eating. Ok. sure, and talking to people, encountering with other people. And this is the way the practice really lies. Really. You wrap yourself with the practice . You eat the practice, you sleep with the practice, you think with the practice. This is the real practice. It’s not the mala. It’s not the time you sit. It’s not the number of Om Mani Padme Hums you say. It’s not. Good. So, such an opportunity what you have is not possible to get again. I’m not going to be polite to you. I’m going to be bold to you. It’s not possible at all to get again. It’s never been before, and it will not be again. So, take the bet use of it. OK. Because the opportunity is impermanent, it changes every minute and it runs out. It doesn’t increase. So, you’ve got to take the opportunity now.
1:00:03.6 A sound convincing Christian minister? (laughter) OK, so I keep on saying you’ve got to do now, but what do you have to do now? To get rid of the pain, suffering , not only for yourself but everybody is sort of hooked in it and how do you do that? The question arises, where is it coming from? Is it created by another person? A god doesn’t create pain, do they? No. Who created it? Nobody, except ourselves. That’s why we experience differently. Right? Somebody enjoys (a) certain atmosphere, nice one and somebody ( else ) is miserable in that atmosphere . Somebody’s pleasure is somebody (else’s) misery. Because we create differently right? That’s why it differs from person to person, joy and suffering differs. And that’s because we (as) individuals are responsible for our (own) individual experience. So what you do now is actually shaping your future. That’s what you’re doing. Your today’s life is nothing but that of creating your future life. Whether you’re sitting with big seriousness or whether you’re mumble jumbling with brub brub brub brub brub, or whether you’re thinking seriously or whether you’re eating meat, or being vegetarian. Whatever you’re doing today, you’re creating your future.
1:03:11.8 Hey . You are your own creator. Please believe me. Really true. You are your own creator , your good, your bad is your own deeds. And nobody else is doing it to you. If you want to have a good time, you can make it. If you want a bad time, you do it. And do not blame to the second person, please don’t. We always blame. I would have been OK, but she did it. I would have been ok, she did it. You know, that’s what our unfortunately natural habit. Because I don’t want to accept the responsibility. I want to be the good one. All the bad ones were done by others. That’s why we blame other people. That’s why we have problems in the family, that’s why we have problems with the children, that’s why we have problems with the companion,. All of them because you’re pointing the finger outside , rather than putting your finger inside. Then, sometimes, some people go and put the finger inside too much so they’ll say, Oh, I am the terrible one, I am the worst. I’m this and I’m that . That is again extreme. So you must balance, OK? It is my fault . You can’t blame the other one. The normal Western phrase , one hand clapping does not make noise. That’s it, so balance. So now, the question comes how, where if I created, how do I do? I don’t want to hurt myself . I don’t want to harm myself . How do I do it? What did I do?
1:06:10.8 Unfortunately, we don’t realize what we’re doing. We are absolutely drunk. Really, drunk with anger, drunk with attachment. We have an overdosage of attachment and an overdosage of anger, so you have no idea what you’re doing. True. It’s an overdose . You’re high somewhere up there or you’ve been down there somewhere. It’s all because of an overdose of anger and attachment. So the creator of the problem is our delusions. Right? so the Karma is such a thing that it’s functioning by itself . It has its own sort of natural law and we go against that. If you fight with the law, who’s going to win? You know that, right? “I fought with the law, the law won,” right? You normally have to say that . You can’t say” I fought with the law. I won.” You don’t get away at all . You don’t get away. So, similarly, we get an overdosage of drugs and you break the law and you get into trouble. And similarly, here you get an overdosage of anger , attachment and will break the natural law and we get into trouble. that’s what it is. Simple as that. So, how, now what do you do? Watch. Watch yourself . Watch your own monkey. Let it not jump around too much. But don’t overstrain it. All right, so watch your anger. Watch your jealousy. watch your attachment and cut it out.
1:09:02.2 And way and how you do it is minute by minute and hour by hour, rather than the rest of your life, no. Minute by minute, hour by hour . it is very similar to cutting off cigarette smoking, right? And if you want to cut off the cigarette smoking, what do they say? If you stop smoking cigarettes what do you do? So you think I’m going to stop next month . Will that work? Never. Let me finish this pack and then the next pack, I won’t start. Will that work? I doubt it. I used to be a heavy smoker. You know I had my opportunity to rebel, teenage rebel, a little late but nevertheless, better late than never thanks to the Chinese , I had the opportunity to find out what is in that . I was a very heavy smoker, became a very heavy smoker. I smoked for 13 years. And there’s some period, like 2 packs a day. Sometimes it was not so much, but at least 2 packs for 3 days, for sure for 13 years. And that was also a terrible Indian strong tobacco rather than nice you know. It’s not the French Gauloises. So, anyway, by the time that I had to cut it. I cut it on the half cigarette. Really true. Absolutely true. I was smoking, and then before finishing the one cigarette, I put it out. If I had to wait for this finishing then the next one, so cut it. The time came. I cut it.
1:12:06.4 1:12:06.4 Do you know the reason why I had to cut ? Because I had to go to Ladakh with His Holiness Gyelwa Degomba
1:12:19.6 (unsure of spelling) the head of the Degomba Lama. And he has almost 50 %, maybe 70% of all Ladakhies are his traditional lineage followers. So Ladakhies think the smokers are terrible . It is sort of the young bizarre slick guys, you know it is traditionally against their culture , religion. You know, sort of wild crazy guys in the street like a
1:13:17.2 (word?) look. So I took the opportunity to cut it. And I cut it well, very well. The day after, I picked up twice . Not immediately. After 7 or 8 years after, just once or twice . Recently, I picked up smoking these days . Yeah, really , but I only had two cigarettes left in the Galouise cutting out the day after. I don’t know how that’s going to work. (laughter) . And she helped me to finish one. Anyway, now so the idea is you’ve got to do now. And if at the moment, if I keep on thinking after this pack, I’m going to cut it, I’m not going to cut it. So I cut it in the middle of a cigarette and that’s what you’ve got to do. And it’s easy for me to tell you cut out your anger, cut out your attachment but it’s absolutely difficult for you to do it.
1:15:07.2 1:15:07.2 But, what you can do is bring awareness . Don’t ever give the opportunity to denial, because denial is the shelter for those negativities. Anger is bad, but I’ve got nothing to do with that. But, blah, blah, blah. So that will not do. I am angry. If it’s bad. All right. I’ll try to cut it out. I am angry. I am attached. I am jealous. Say it. Acknowledge. That’s what it is. That’s what it takes. Ok. So, now there’s a big question I would like to throw. What is the relationship between saying your prayers and cutting your anger? And what is the relationship between the meditation and cutting my anger. Do you have an answer? You learned that from me, didn’t you? That’s my word. (laughter) Just joking. Do you have the answer, Robert? Yeah. Two Roberts. Say together. We’ll hear it. Make enough noise. One louder than the other one.
(Question is inaudible 1:17:37.5) Oh. Why don’t you go to a picnic? Have boating. or go fishing. Any answer you have? Questioner: You think about it in your brain or in your imagination and if you think it about it thoroughly while meditating, or while praying, then you can give a different direction to what you do.
1:18:30.4 How? It’s easy to say it . Questioner: by being aware of it and then by finding out what causes it . Rimpoche: And? Questioner: First you have to accept it. Then you can try to do something with it. Rimpoche: Are you sure? (She says yes). Rimpoche: Very good. Do you have anything to add on to that? Anybody else have anything to add to that? (inaudible) Rimpoche: That is part of awareness I’m presuming. Only she doesn’t use the word awareness, but it is a great thing to point out. One thing I would like to raise here the prayers that we introduce. The Tibetan tradition is not only a devotional prayer. We do have devotional prayer too, but we don’t only do devotional prayers. If you look in the Hindu tradition, they keep on singing all this you know , all these tablas go on . It is mostly devotional prayers. It’s true. And I don’t know about the Christian tradition, but to me, it seems when there’s a big singing going on in the churches they are mostly devotional.
1:21:04.2 Yeah. We praise the Lord this and we praise the Lord that. It is more devotional. Then, the Tibetan prayers, if you look at people who say the Sadhanas, people who do the prayers, there are devotional prayers like Lama Chopa . If you look at Lama Chopa, half of it is devotional prayers, and half of them dealing with yourself. So it’s not only a devotional prayer. The prayer that is dealing with your mind is recognition with external things , prayer that holds the individual reacting with the external feelings of good and bad and ugly and all this and prayer that connects the external with the internal and the internal’s reactions. So, that’s why the introduction of the praying from this tradition is different than that of devotional prayer. Although we use the word prayer, because it is a borrowed word. We did not find another word but the meaning differs. So, let me make a little propaganda while I have the opportunity, a little propaganda to this particular way of doing it. It’s not only that you’re appealing to the Enlightened beings, and using their energies and capacities and capabilities, and dealing with yourself, how you handle life , how you cut your negativity, how you build your positivity and that’s why this prayer is superior. (laughs) That’s propaganda. It’s not political propaganda. It’s Dharma propaganda.
1:24:09.1 And I have a question pending by Robert, and then no more because we’ve got to go for lunch. Robert: I’d like to get one thing straight. I feel for myself better to think of meditating to think of anger and rage.
(hard to hear 1:24:33.9) Actually to have done such actions because you see the results so clearly then. Rimpoche: Good. Robert: You feel (more) deeply these acts then by doing only prayer or meditation. Rimpoche: You got a double thumbs up. That is meditation. That is practice. Meditation does not depend on the cushion and the sitting down. Remember that. Ok. Translator: She heard your propaganda for the prayer but her question is how exactly does this work within the prayer? Does the text of the prayer tell you how to deal with this anger or do you have to think about that while praying? Rimpoche: A lot of prayers will tell you. The text will tell you. And because when you say the words, and you think behind (it). They really have that. I mean, you do need some commentaries, some guidance. Once you have that, you can link up because even if you don’t think (about it), the words will do a lot. And that’s what I mean that it’s not only a devotional prayer. Ok. Thank you. We have to go to lunch and come back and after lunch I would talk to you a little more about love/ compassion and the six perfections dealing with the life. 1:27:19.5
*I’m not sure if he’s saying “crowded” or “corrupt”, or what. It’s repeated several times, so I tried to be consistent, but as I continued to transcribe I suspected that “crowded”, which is what I thought I heard the first time was not the right word., but I can’t quite make out what he’s saying.
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