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Soundfile 19951208GRJHNLWE 2

Speaker Gelek Rimpoche

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Transcriber Xin Yan

Date 21.10.2020

But do you still want to be slave? What happened to our freedom? Think about it. And this is the responsibility of analyzing those. So see 3 different part of you? And the third person who sits alone analyze, think has the responsibility. Why? Because both of them had too much habitual pattern, it is overworked. This sitting alone me is not so much overworked. That will make difference. That is the responsible person. And that one makes difference in your life. But this key how you handle your emotions and that person is responsible and capable of observing whether there is Queen Bee or Queen Wasp or Queen Ant or not. And that will be able to make yourself a slave or free.

So that’s it. I have nothing more to say. So those of you coming back tomorrow and we will see how the emotions rise and how the emotions affect individual and how you can make difference. They were taught today anyway. And that is the deep spiritual practice. I must emphasize that once otherwise I’m a failure and if you look at it and just simply talk, we talk emotions, [0:03:02.8] we talk individuals but there is nothing spiritual. But that is the deepest spiritual practice. Let me take few minutes of you and lets go deep down in Buddhism.

In the essence of the Buddhism, is to correct the individuals. The word of Buddhism in Tibetan is called ??? [0:03:59.5] which means corrected level. Corrected from what? Corrected from our bad habit. Corrected from anger, corrected from hatred, corrected from jealous, attachments and that, by doing that you become better. That better person become farther better, and that becomes perfect. That perfection level is called Buddha level. Okay? So the spiritual really doesn’t mean depend on going some temples and saying prayers and burning incense and candle lights and sitting cross-legged, ringing bells. All these is part of it but doesn’t depend on that. And the essense of the Vajyarana Buddhism is the transforming negativities into positiveness. [0:05:58.4]

And the transforming the five senses into the pure level, pure wisdom. That is feelings, and I forget what are those five now. The form and the feelings, recognition and acknowledgment. Now I have forgot completely whatever it is. All of them becomes, (couldn’t get what Rimpoche was trying to say ) [0:06:43.3 to 0:06:47.6] Like the physical body, that’s called form, right? So that impure body within the certain process and made it into pure body, and that pure body of that has become the ??(Sanskrit term ) [0:07:18.4] of Buddha, one of the five Buddhas. So as the Akshobhya Buddha is the mind, s as the Ratnasambhava is his feeling. So basically the five senses that what we have, what we called the Five skandhas or what you called that, the five what?

Audience: aggregates, aggregates.

Rimpoche: yes, Thank you. Aggregates. You know what I heard? Five angry guys!

Audience: *burst into laughter* [0:08:07.0]

Anyway, those aggregates what we have, is changing from the impure level and becoming pure is the ultimate spiritual achievement. And out of that, the mind is the most important. And what we talked tonight is very simple way how to get your mind from this impure level into the pure level, just we clip off emptiness in between (unsure about accuracy of this part, kindly recheck) [0:09:02.0] other wise that’s what it is. So don’t think its not spiritual, it is very much spiritual, it is the deep part of spiritual practice. Its really true. The spiritual practice does not depend on saying mantras or nor you have to sit down and meditate, but you have to analyze. You know, the third person although which you cannot function? (audio unclear, please recheck) [0:09:56.3] So that is meditation anyway. Whether you sit on the ground or you sit on the chair or sit on stool or whatever. So so that is don’t think that is not spiritual, that is very much spiritual.

And changing your life different. That is the essence, the whole purpose of saying mantras, saying meditation, what are you doing? You’re trying to make change. And the simplest saying “please change me, please change me, please change me” that’s what you’re doing. [0:10:56.9] and here what you’re doing is you’re making change by yourself. And what are we not going to say is “this is better”. *Rimpoche laughs* I’m not going to say that because sometimes to some people saying mantras work better. To some people, analyzing and thinking works better. It depends on individual and again depends how you perceive. As simple as that. Some people will perceive very well with mantra, and some people will think it’s a terrible thing to do, what’s going on?! Why should I do that, you know. So its also depends how you perceive. I believe both works. But thinking analyzing and add a little mantra together works even better. *Rimpoche and Audience bursts into laughter* Alright? Any questions? Now it’s the time, you already raise your hands.

Translator: She has no questions. She raised her hands as an answer to your question.

Rimpoche: Yes, I know but you haven’t given your explanation yet. Anybody else or if theres any questions, I’ll be happy. Yes? [0:13:39.2]

Audience: When you gave the example of 2 people falling in love, you said after 10 years the other person is still the same person as 10 years before. Now we have been talking about change all evening long, or at least possible change. How do you mean that in the context of this example?

Rimpoche: Well, I just said 10 years without just not physically the 10 years. When I said it’s the same person, that person when you fall in love at the beginning level, the quality and the what you call that, disquality, you can’t say that. The quality and the problem at there. It is not the problems not new, the quality has not gone down, both are there but you choose not to see the problem part of it and 10 years later, you purposely choose to acknowledge the problem. You know why?

The other side of perceiving the good quality has become weaker. So the perceiving the problem become stronger. So that’s The person change, always change but always continue? (kindly recheck this part) [0:15:18.1 - 0:15:19.5] it is cringing you and the change goes together with the individual. We label them “Oh you changed completely” he might have changed from black hair to grey hair but the personality means something.

What happens is we perceived differently. In some cases people really changed, but that’s because of different reasons. You know some people get some sickness and they changed completely. Some people have some chemical problem within body its become miserable person. That’s change but that’s exception. We’re not talking about that, we’re talking about basic human being, as a human being functioning without all these different circumstances. So that’s what we’re talking about. [0:17:07.9].

Well, if there is no other questions, its easy for us to say call it a day.

Rimpoche: Oh yeah. There’s one.

Audience: Could you illustrate perhaps the emotion of, what you could probably call depression feeling depressed to talk about jealousy and anger. How to place depression in the context of emotions?

Rimpoche: Perhaps the Doctor can explain this better. The different depression to me it’s a combination of the physical and the emotional. A lot of them has something to do, many of them have something to do with some physical deficiency of certain things. Physically affect the mind, which of cause Doctors can take care of. But there is another one that’s mentally affecting affecting physical too. And that’s the biggest problem people face. It is basically the mind, what we mentioned earlier. One of the solution is let it go, another solution is planning for the better future. And both of them be able to work if you recognize. [0:20:25.0]

By not recognizing, by denying, it gives bigger shoutout for the emotional problems. Bigger shout-out for denial. The person is deeply angry, the person becomes deeply angry. Not only deeply angry but also twisted become crooked. But still you deny. You say “I’m not angry but the problem bla bla blab la” which is the denial of anger which really tortures the individual. In one hand you can’t accept that you are angry, because that’s not good thing to do in society. Whatever it is, it is. On other hand you cannot let it go, so in between that, the individuals pulled right and left. So that’s how the mental problem affects the physical individual. So if you recognize you’re angry, and what’s wrong with it, everybody gets angry, everybody get jealous, everybody has attachment, if you don’t have that, you have something wrong with you. So, acknowledge! So once you acknowledge, acknowledgement has tremendous power. [0:23:06.4]

You now if you acknowledge you’re angry, your anger power will reduce tremendously. You know why? Because you feel embarrassed. Embarrassed of yourself. And you also feel embarrassed of the others. “Oh My God, did I really get angry? Am I really that angry?” so these are the true, crude mental faculties??? (please recheck this statement, I’m not sure) [0:23:43.7 - 0:23:49.9] Embarrassment, feeling shy reduces the power of negative emotions. Basically the western education or somewhere they tell you, embarrassment is not good and feeling shy is not good and this and that but it also has its good quality there. Buddha used this 2 emotions very much. These 2 emotions are used for human discipline. And the discipline, you discipline yourself, you don’t need someone else to come and tell you what to do. But let the third person, the analyzing person tell you what to do, that’s yourself. That’s the you who are not so much affected by the habitual positive or negative. So the 2 of these mental faculties, feeling embarrassment and shy which in normal western education you don’t consider that’s good but sometimes its really helpful. I hope that answers. Anyway, Thank you. [0:25:55.3]

Rimpoche: Yes?

Audience: How about sadness?

Rimpoche: Same thing.

*Audience laughs*

Rimpoche: Sadness itself by nature is not negative. Anger is negative. Jealousy is negative. Sadness is not negative but affect the individual is same thing. The problem of the sadness is if you let it go, then there is nothing to be sad if you can out the sadness as past event, its always better. If you can put the sadness as the past events, its always better. Same as loneliness, and the fear of being lonely. All of them function same way. Basically its not negative but it disturbs you equally good, equally bad. *Rimpoche laughs*

Audience: I have a question. These emotions, they can also be a power or source for example me being compassionate over people who don’t have a good life, it can give me strength. But I understand what I get from your story is that emotions are negative.

Rimpoche: Not necessarily. Emotions have negative as well as positive, both. You have to translate the word both.

Audience: (someone from the audience posted a reply to Rimpoche’s answer but was inaudible / unclear to transcriber) [0:28:38.4 -- 0:28:56.4 ]

Rimpoche: I’ve talked from the angle from the angle of negative emotions. But some emotions are positive some emotions are negative. And all the emotions are not necessarily bad or the emotions are not necessarily good. But emotions if the one who making the difference to the individual. If there’s no emotional effects to the individuals, individual will be much stable and much calm and calmer. [0:29:51.5]

Rimpoche: Excuse me, before you, the lady over here.

Audience: She is slightly confused about the word ‘spirituality’. Her question is “What exactly is meant by spirituality?” Could you be perhaps be more ..? (audio unclear) [0:30:41.2]

Rimpoche: Making individual better being. Better being free of negativity. You know the negativities brings the miserable and the suffering. And when you can free of that and it is becomes spiritual, to me. Maybe I’m absolutely wrong, hopefully not.

Audience: *laughs*

Rimpoche: Ya. Sir? I think that have to be the last question. Its quite late.

Audience: The question, “How do you think about mourning? You know mourning when someone has died, people mourn. But not only mourning about something which has happened recently, but also mourning about things which have happened in the past like reliving traumas, things which happened.”

Rimpoche: That I have a problem. This is one point where I get difficult with psychologist. One point. Only one point. Erm, basically psychotherapist and psychologist will always tell you ‘re-experiencing that and then better way you improve and you deal with your problems by re-facing, reliving with that and get to the bottom of the problem.’ And to me, the bottom of the problem does not begin at the childhood level. [0:32:57.2]

When you believe the problems begins at the childhood level, then you look what child had the problem. Whether its been sexually molested or physically tortured or mentally tortured or something and then you know lot of people. I am not talking about all the psychologist but some of them will try to suggest that you had bad childhood, you had a problem, maybe its your father who molested you, maybe its your uncle who did it. Don’t you remember anything? Don’t you remember anything? And then they will say “Well, I remember that I was afraid of bearded guy.” So “Ohhh, there you go! This is bearded guy is your problem.” You know that bearded uncle so you blame that bearded uncle or bearded father. Some psychologist do that and they call that breakthrough. But to me, its not. To me its unnecessarily you blame parents, unnecessarily. Or maybe necessary, I don’t know. But the problem really here, you know I belong to this society which believes in re-incarnation. And in the west, majority of the people do not believe in re-incarnation. And once you’re looking from the person who belong to the society which believes in the re-incarnation, the whole prospect of the psychology goes much bigger than the ….?? (audio unclear to transcriber) [0:34:59.5 - 0:35:02.4]. Its whole spectrum has been changed. And when you look and don’t believe in the re-incarnation, so your view is completely shrink through the …? (unclear) [0:35:16.6] So then you blame the bearded uncle and bearded father but that’s really my feeling. Its big difference. [0:37:01.8]

Rimpoche: Maybe we’re blaming too much for the incarnation but whatever it is, you know. I see really big difference between the you know death and birth and the whole different life altogether. Experience carries ?? [0:37:26.6] But I’m not criticizing the psychologist or psychotherapist and they are also doing their best service to people. Just the way I speak you know, that doesn’t mean I’m criticizing them. I guess we have to call a day because some people must be really tired. And thank you. [0:38:23.3]