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say Speaker Gelek Rimpoche

Location Netherlands

Topic Ganden Lha Gyema

Transcriber Vicki Cahill

Date November 12, 2023

GR: Day in and day out. So, that’s it. So, there you have the problem. For instance, many of us. Ok. are taking.. Are taking lot of different various initiations. Vows. Precepts. Though none of us has the vow of monk and nun and all this. But still, bodhisattva, tantra and that initiation this initiation. Everything has a commitment. Precepts has its own commitment. Bodhisattva vow has its own commitment. And all this, so we sort of really fills up every day. While sitting I think we’re really getting a lot of breaking our commitments, day after day. And month after month. That is nature. Whether you know it or whether you don’t know it. What are your commitments and what are not. If you remembered or you don’t remember. Whether you have guru yoga or you don’t have guru yoga. Whatever it may be, six session yoga is also guru yoga. So, whether you have guru yoga; whether you don’t have guru yoga. Whether you have six session yoga; whether you don’t have six session yoga or whatever it may be. We have; constantly 0:01:56.4 it falls out (?). Because what happened in our level is not a very high, really fit to be at the tantric level. So. But we have entered into the mandala through a ritual offering, an initiation. So, the moment you enter into the mandala, it has its own lot of commitments in different levels. And all this are every time you take it. Whether you know it or you don’t know it. Whether you say it, you don’t say it, you carry. Because it’s bound to be. Bound to. Bound to. So, that’s why we have lot of. Lot of non-virtuous actions we have. Particularly in tantric practice. It is very interesting. Of course, it’s one you can’t half joke.(?) (woman screams and cries)

0:03:10.2 No. Don’t get upset. (woman crying) You know, one shouldn’t get upset about that. You know, that’s the. (woman crying) Marian. (crying) No problem at all. Don’t worry. (crying) Marian. Please don’t be upset.

Conversation: (unintelligible)

GR: Does pop up when we talk.

Audience: ??water??

GR: No. No. Just chew. Chew. Don’t worry. No problem at all. Don’t worry. This happens. When you talk about non-virtuous you have to talk about it. Please don’t, you know, feel bad. (continued crying and Dutch conversation)

0:06:04.3 (Crying and Dutch)

0:09:04.9 Ok. Don’t put that (?). (Dutch)

Audience: If you ask a doctor you get the patients. (laughs) cooperation

GR: That’s what we do in Tibet.

Audience: Yeah

GR: People get sick, they put them in 0:09:30.1 (?) to get warm. They say draw through a certain circle.

Audience; Yeah. A circle.

GR: Then I should get some commission. Right?

Audience: Yes

GR: Ok. Now. Let’s start. Ok. So, that’s ok. Really, don’t worry. That happens. So. Not only that. Even you have no commitment.

Audience: I’m not

GR: Really. Even you have no commitment for whatsoever in anything. Whatever maybe. Even then we get a lot of non-virtuous actions. We commit. And every non-virtuous actions are multiplied. They’re multiplies. In a twenty-four hours period. So, that’s why Nagarjuna has said: 0:10:27.5 (Tibetan: Kab…) The non-virtuous actions committed by the learned person. Even if it is heavy. But not learned; intelligent person. Intelligent person even it is heavy, but it is light. But if the non-virtuous action committed by a unintelligent person, even if it’s light, it will be heavy. Examples Nagarjuna gives, among, you know, a piece of iron. A piece of iron. Whatever the iron piece is, it’s like throwing into the water. If you use the same amount of iron; make a flat sheet. Flat sheet and throw it into the ocean. Throw into the water. It will not go down, no matter how much it may be, because it’s flat. It will stand up out of the water. But if you don’t make flat and put round and throw into the water. Even a very small one maybe will go deep down. So, that’s it. Non-virtuous actions that people commit constantly, it is our nature. You cannot avoid. Constantly. But if you commit intelligently then it’s like flat iron thrown on the water. Flat iron sheet and then throw on the water. Doesn’t go down. It sort of lingers up.

0:12:07.9 If you throw a round fill round, no matter even how small it may be, it will go zoom down. That’s it. So, how does that intelligence works? What is the method? It is no other method than that of purification. So, the purification is become very important. So, you purify whatever the non-virtuous action may be, you have to purify. And if it’s purified there is no such non-virtuous action which cannot be purified. No. Nothing. Even you had committed a five limitless non-virtuous. There are five limitless. That’s what in Buddhism it is called. The five highest non-virtuous. Even if you committed all five by one person. Even then it is purified. Purified. For example, I’m sure it’s very. Every one of you are familiar with the story of Angulimala. The man with the thumbs rosary. Very interesting. Well, that’s a very quite Buddhist story. During the Buddha’s lifetime there was a man. He had a wrong spiritual master. So, he had taught, if you kill one thousand man within one week and cut everybody’s thumb. And when you kill one man, cut his thumb and then put through a thread and you wear it. And at the end of the week and you kill one thousand men and within one thousand thumb mala and come to me and I shall liberate you. And that was his teaching. So, he started killing everybody. And he started killing. He started killing and he killed people and he cut; he started cutting the thumb and he started wearing. So, before the week was over, everybody know that he was killing, so, the people started running away from him. And the last person, he couldn’t get it. He doesn’t want to kill his mother. The only people left of his mother. So, about everybody is running away from him. He had killed nine hundred and ninety-nine people already. And the last one is not getting and doesn’t want to kill his mother. He was waiting and waiting around and finally he doesn’t get anyone so, he’s going to kill his mother. About that time Buddha appeared. Buddha appeared to him and not in the form of Buddha but as ordinary monk. Walking around.

0:15:04.8 And he thought, well, now, it’s really good that I don’t have to kill my mother. So, I’m going to get that monk. So, he started running after the monk. So, the monk started going very slowly. He’s running and he couldn’t catch monk at all. He’s running. He sort of. He keep on running, running. The monk is slowly going, and he couldn’t catch. Then he shouted. He said, “Hey, wait.” He said, “I’m waiting.” He said, “I’m waiting” He said, “I couldn’t get you. You wait. I want to talk to you.” He said, “No, I’m waiting. You come.” And like that, started talking. They started conversation, like this and that’s how he started talking. Buddha gradually talking, talking, talking to him. Like that, like that, like that. And finally he; Buddha started be able to talk to him briefly. Briefly. And he regret that he had killed so many people. And he bring that full of 0:16:03.9 (??) and then he realized why you can’t get it. And he can’t get it because of non-virtuous and then you know all the samsara and all sort of thing, problem, everything. Buddha started talking. Buddha said, “I’m waiting here, but you can’t get here.” This is how it happened. So, finally he regretted. And when he regretted Buddha said, “I think you been purified. No matter how much non-virtuous action.“ Who else? I mean, there is. Who else in this world who have not committed heavy non-virtuous? Everybody in one lifetime or the another have committed so many non-virtuous everything. And you have regret. So, you can purif. And he purified and made up, because he had obtained even ordinary liberation. That is the famous story of Angulimala. Angulimala. That is Sanskrit word. Anguli is thumb. Mala is mala. Rosary. Angulimala. So, that’s it. Even the. Even the person like Angulimala, who had killed nine hundred ninety-nine human beings within five days, can purify. Then why you and I who have practically almost done nothing cannot be purified. There is no reason why you cannot purify any non-virtuous. So, nothing that you feel bad. And, yeah, people feel bad. What happens is people when they talk about benefits, people get very excited and carried away. When you talk about disadvantages and; and faults and. Yeah. Faults and disadvantages and then they feel again bad.

0:18:09.7 Some people even feel tempted for things like that. You know. Sort of tempting, things like that. So, they should not be feeling bad. Because everything can be purified. Some people even feel depression on it and shouldn’t do that. Because there is nothing which cannot be corrected. After all, everything is impermanent. Remember. The principle. The principle. The real principle is impermanent. There is no such thing as permanent. No matter what the situation. The thought, circumstances, evidences. Think of anything .Everything is impermanent. Whether it goes from better to worse or worse to better or whatever it may be. But it is definitely impermanent. When it is impermanent, it is changeable. When it is changeable, it involves action. When it involves action, it has to be your action. Who else can act? So, everything is changeable. Everything is subject of impermanence. Everything is depends on action. So, everything depends on you. So, nothing should be feel bad. Nothing should feel sad. Nothing should feel depression because it is impermanent. Situation, circumstances, life, anything. Anything whatever may happen, everything is impermanent. If you are high, good and top of the world. Nothing to be happy because it is impermanent. Or when you are up, is bound to go down. Nothing to be proud. Nothing to be happy. When you are down. Nothing to be feel bad. Nothing to be feel sad, because it is bound to go up. Ok? If you are in life, you are bound to die. When you are dead, you are bound to go. That’s it. go away. What a big pity. (laughs) Ok. So, therefore, to correct action. To correct a situation, is very much depends on the action of the person. That you know very well. Even the material world, if you want to do something, you have to act. If you don’t act, and you keep on thinking.

0:21:02.5 Then it remains at the thinking level. Nothing happens. Right? And that, everybody know. Right? If you want to go there, you have to move and get up and drive or get a bus or get a bicycle or something. But if you keep on thinking of going, thinking of going, it will not reach there. Right? So, that’s it. Similarly, everything you have to act. If you do action, it’s bound to give results because karma has to come in. If you act anything, if you’re bound to get the result. That’s it. So, here the best action what you have to do is purify. Because non-virtuous actions all can be purified. So, if you purify it connects. It will neutralize. So, the negative energy can be neutralized. So, when it is neutralized, it is. It doesn’t really give much result. The result, even if it does, very small and very very sort of you know, weak ineffective result. You know. When you neutralize, everything happens like that. Right? You know that, right? Anything; whatever you neutralized. If you neutralize the horse, it cannot produce any babies. You know that. So, just like that. I’m sorry. Yeah. I mean, just like that. So, you may have some kind of small reflection or action or something, but doesn’t really. Neutralize. So how does do it? By purification. Non-virtuous; by purification is neutralized. Virtuous actions, by getting anger, by getting angry, the virtuous things. The virtuous things, neutralized by getting angry. I mean, everything is. Everything has, it is advantage, disadvantage both. Even the non-virtuous has the advantage of purification and you can purify. Also, virtuous also has equally. I mean, that is just like equal. You know for equal. You know, both works equally. So, if you get angry you burn all your virtue. So, that’s it. So, you must realize how expensive to get angry. It is real expensive. We can’t really afford to get angry nowadays. It is very difficult to get angry, you know. Really you cost a lot of.

0:24:00.4 It costs a lot.

Audience: I mean, it is one thing if you say, it is the mind who is sort of directing itself. But that is not purification. It is mantra that which is purify. Sort of act of saying the mantra. In that case, purification is on the level of energy. It’s buddha who is purifying you? By means of his blessing. Maybe it’s 0:24:44.2 (?) What is purifying?

GR: Yeah.

Audience: Why is it (???) it is a very (?)

GR: Very what?

Audience: (?) What is the pure

GR: What do you purify?

Audience: No. What’s the part that purifies. What’s the first? Is your mind who is sort of directing itself. (?)

GR: Why don’t you let me finish the talk first. So, probably. Probably you get it. I know it. I mean, I know you know. How do. I think I know you know how it works. So, let me just finish talk. So, probably. So, where are we talking? Yeah. Purification

Audience: Purification

GR: Sorry.

Audience: It’s expensive to get angry.

GR: Yes. It’s very expensive to get angry. 0:26:07.4 (Tibetan: can je ge she….) Chandrakirti. Nagarjuna’s disciple, Chandrakirti has said, if you get angry to somebody. Maybe that happened to (?). If you get matter of second to get angry, it will burn your virtuous act of generosity, etcetera, which is accumulated for a hundred eons, it burned by one matter of second. Therefore, there is no other heavy non-virtuous rather than. There are no other heavy non-virtuous other than anger. That’s what he said.

0:27:03.6 Buddha said (Tibetan: can….) Buddha said, there is no heavier non-virtue than that of anger. And there is no hard (?) than that of patience. No matter how much people can go without food. You know. People can go take hardships here and there. Hardship on food, cloth, heat, cold.

Audience: (?) possibility to get angry.

GR: (?)0:27:49.3 Everything. We have possibility of getting Buddha (?). And better automatically, don’t even learn it. You don’t have to learn it; how to get angry. You learn yourself automatically. Nobody has to teach you how to get angry. You have to learn it; how to get patience. 0:28:13.1 (Tibetan: se ve….) There are no hardship. There is no difficulty action than that of patience. Which is very difficult. Buddha had said. Now let me go to the question of how purify. So, then how does purifying. Then this word comes here. 0:28:34.8 (Tibetan: can je…) Whatever the non-virtue, body, speech and mind I have accumulated from the beginning of time. And especially any transgression of my vows. Ok. This is. Anything goes against vows. 0:28:55.5 (?) Translation. Three vows means; vow of monk-hood, vow of bodhisattva, and vow of tantra. I can repeat over again. 0:29:12.1 (Tibetan: can je tre bon…) Ok. That’s it. Hmm? Now, next question is; how. Ok. It can be everything, as I think I mentioned several times also. All the non-virtuous actions can be purified by applying four power. Four antidote power. Four antidote power. That power of base.

0:30:01.3 Power of action. Power of regret and the power of repentance.

Audience: (discussion)

GR: Not to repeat.

Audience: Oh.

GR: Promising not to do again.

Audience: Oh yeah.

GR: Ok. Now, out of which, power of base is action. And power of action is also action. Power of repentance and power of regret is mind. Mental action. Power of regret and power of promising not to repeat gets to be mind action. Right? It is action which applies on the imprint of whatever you have. The imprint was made clear by remembering. And then putting the action on it. And so, it sort of applying on the imprint whatever you have. Did you get it? Suppose, if you have list of people and when you wanted mark somebody. And you take one of those marking pencils and put over it. Very similar to. And you get. If you have a somebody’s name cut off of the list and you don’t, make sure that nobody sees the name. You have to cut very carefully with some sort of tick you apply on 0:32:05.6 (?). Or you have one of those ink removers applied. So, that’s it. So, all this powers are through mind, through mantra and through mind action, physical action and mantra power. And your power, your action and. I mean, your power and other’s power all are involved in there if you think that way. How? Because four powers you have to. Out of four powers, the power. I think I proved that, didn’t I. The last day on the. Huh?

Audience: You said you were going to purification. (?)

0:33:08.1 GR: Yeah, but then I talked that because the boy says he’s not going to be there.

Audience: yes

Audience 2: Oh, yeah.

(discussion and laughter)

GR: That’s important. I can vow to you. No problem. Huh? The power of base means base on which you commit any non-virtuous. So, you have to get that sort of collaboration or coordination from the base on which you commit. Ok. Now, the base. When you talk about the base. Ok. It doesn’t matter. Now, I will not confuse you. Let it be. (laughs) Certain theoretical point doesn’t accept these as base. You accept somebody, something else as base. But mostly this is the base. Base on which you commit non-virtuous action. Ok? Suppose we get angry. You have to get angry on someone. You’re not going to get angry on wall. Or on the table. You’re not going to get angry to table. Right?

Audience: (indistinguishable)

GR: No. unless you are stupid. (laughs) Like American president. When. When is that. T W A Hijackers hijack (?) Middle East. He said, “I couldn’t do anything. I banged the wall three times. He said.

Audience: Yeah, yeah.

GR: (laughs) He said, “I banged the wall three times.”

Audience: Still angry about it.

GR: Who? For who.

Audience: (indistinguishable) President

GR: No, he’s not angry with the wall. He’s angry with the people down there. But he couldn’t reach them so he hit the wall. I mean, he was helpless at that time. First he thought of going war. Really. I mean, sort of. People talked around. He said, “ Drop a bomb.” And somebody said, if you drop a bomb, it all goes, then they will die. Then will be a lot of trouble. He got out of it. (laughs) He can’t drop a bomb. He said you can’t drop a bomb. You can’t get them out. That’s why I mean, he admitted. Somebody asked him in press conference.

Audience; Maybe hijackers are cooperating.

GR: No. Somebody asked him in press conference. He said, “We heard that this morning 0:36:01.0 we going to war/ hit the wall (???).” He said, what trouble?

Audience: Uh Huh.

GR: He said, Yes. I couldn’t do anything. So, I got angry, hit the wall three times.

0:36:10.4 Audience: Yeah

GR: He was leaving Gaza (?) that time

Audience; Yeah.

GR: Ok. Now, angry on somebody. You cannot angry on the wall. Or anything. If you harm, you harm somebody. You harm table. Doesn’t make it. If you bang the table, doesn’t get non-virtuous. Right? If you break table. It doesn’t get non-virtuous. But if you break somebody else’s thing, it is non-virtuous, right? Why? Because it was the base. Base has a life and it has a life. But when you harm with life, that’s why it becomes different. That’s why it is the base. Anything you do on the base it is the being on it makes the difference. So, the base is somebody with living with life. So, living beings. You make a cooperation with them. On what, whatever, on what you do, your. On to whomsoever you have committed non-virtuous. You need sort of. Sort of power coming from that side. So, how do you get. How do you get that? How do you get that? That is only by building a base on you, by you. Building base. How will you build, building base? Because the person on whom you have committed either it will be enlightened person or non-enlightened person. Did you get my point?

Audience: Yeah

GR: There can not be a third person. Half enlightened, half-non-enlightened. Right? So, there cannot be half now. So, therefore either go in this or either go in that. Nothing in between. What my point? So, to build a base on enlightened persons, what can you do? You can do nothing except to take refuge.

0:38:59.0 You cannot take refuge to the non-enlightened person, because that will be, neither help you nor it makes them able. More probably they sort of become insult. (Couldn’t you put this over here? )

Audience: (indistinguishable)

GR: Is it?

Audience: It’s her karma.

GR: So, you need two different actions in order to complete cover the enlightened and non-enlightened. So, the action to cover enlightened ones: refuge. Action to cover non-enlightened ones; meditate love and compassion. Love compassion bodhicitta. You understand? So, that builds the base. Because base on which you committed, it get some kind of compensation. Some kind of, I said. That’s my. Some kind of by meditating love or compassion or by taking refuge. So, it gets some kind of.

Audience: But it’s on the meditative level that’s the base. Meditating. Not the action level.

GR: No. you meditate. It is thinking level. This is only mind level. This is thinking. Ok? That’s it. So, that’s why you need a refuge taking and meditation on so many places. On every living being. This is everywhere. Everything, whatever you do with the Tibetan rituals, you get that. You know: I go for refuge until I’m enlightened. I go for refuge to the Buddha Dharma and highest assembly until I’m enlightened. Or, I take refuge, blah, blah. That word is written by Atisha. Eleven century Mongolian scholar. Some people said it was translated by Mongolians. It was written by Atisha. So, that was; they used it by every Tibetan. Ever since the eleventh century. No matter who, whoever you may be. Whatever the sect you may belong to, they saying the same thing, everywhere. Because it is short and covers everything in it. So, that’s it. That’s the 0:41:57.7 (??) period. The (?). Ok? That is the mind level.

0:42:05.6 Now we need action. Only mind, you think, “Well, I take refuge. I take a (?) and meditate love and compassion.” And you don’t act. That’s not right. You have to act. I was thinking I forgot something in the offering. Anyway. You have to act. That’s where it comes. Ok. You have to act. You don’t acting. If you keep on thinking. It won’t help. So, you need action also. Action is the recommended actions, such as, to say certain particular mantras for purification. Or Vajrayana OK? There are certain rituals to purify sutra vows and monk and nun vows, etcetera. And they are meditation on emptiness. Or opening of mandala. Building an image. Saving of life. Giving, patience, etcetera. Any virtuous act. And particularly like purifying through prostration with name of thirty-five Buddhas. Purifying Buddhas. And there are certain purifying mantras. Purification of sutra teaching. And these are the recommended action. Or, any other action that you do, of virtuous action can be utilized if you do for the purpose of purification. Distribution of wealth among the objects of refuge. Or giving things to the poor and the needy. And saving the life. I mean, already mentioned. And all these are if you do for that purpose, particularly for that purpose. Then it works. Ok? Yes. You have question.

Audience: (unintelligible) likely that mental. I Purify negative action. It leads to . speech of purify the

0:45:20.0 GR: What did you say?

Audience: She said in the beginning mental activity plan on mental (unintelligible)

GR: I didn’t say that. I said action applies on the imprint. Imprint.

Audience: (unintelligible) purify. Who is. To purify

GR: Yeah. That is four power. Four powers.

Audience: That is not. That is the method.

GR: What do you mean?

Audience: You purify yourself. You purify something very heavy. You purify a little.

GR: Yeah. By having four powers you purified. Those are the four powers. It doesn’t do my English. I do four powers. Some are mental. Some are physical actions. I don’t believe you can pick up one. Yeah. Two.

Audience: (unintelligible)

GR: Four powers here. Why? Why not?

Audience: (unintelligible)

GR: Yeah. But all four needed

Audience: (??)

GR: Yeah.

Audience: So, you say that one (??)

GR: Your own action. Yeah. What Buddha does. The Buddha and Buddhists says, if you do this, it will purify.

Audience: Yes.

GR: Buddha simply said, if you do this, you purify. Ok. So, that’s what we follow. Right? That’s it. What the Buddha says, if you do this, you simply purified. Right? I mean, this is not something which you can see.

0:48:03.7 Here it is sort of both can be applied but most of quotation rather than watching, why it can be done. Right? Why it can be done. If this is not the method and then there has to be another method, because non-virtuous are also subject of impermanence. It is changeable. And how to change. Yeah. Right. So, if this is not the one then there has to be another one. So, what is this. So, it is nowhere any other thing, that thing.

Audience:

GR: that’s because it’s changing.

Audience: No. You said, inprints

GR: I’m not. Yeah.. That’s it. That’s how you change. Otherwise what you’ve done is done. How can you change? Only you can change is everything you’ve done and you’ve put the imprint. Right? Imprint, when you have that, bound to get the result. Ok. Before the result is started coming in, if you can stop that is possible. Once the result; the result starting functioning then it is impossible.

Audience: Because it is changeable, it can also be purified.

GR: That’s what I’m saying.

Audience: Because of its impermanent character of imprints

GR: Everything. Everything. Yeah. Everything. So, you can neutralize. If the karmic, any particular karma started giving the results. If started giving the results, then it cannot. Til the result is over. Because procedure is already started. That’s what the Buddha said. I mean, that’s really. Huh?

Audience: What you said yesterday night. If it’s started already than it has to work out.

GR: It has to work out. It cannot be. It cannot. Then there’s no reverse to go through. And before you start it, it can neutralize. Ok. How it works? Now you can ask. By these powers, by these four powers. Well, it’s just not in the removal and relying on the list. That’s it.

0:51:02.2 Huh?

Audience: (Dutch conversation) You keep seeing where they were before. You keep rest, you know. You move them away. But, he says you keep them seeing now.

(indistinguishable) I have a third finger remorse.

GR: 0:51:41.6 The (??) finger remover works just like tried. You put something there and then Buddha tried that.

Audience: I know and these imprints are really karmic imprints.

GR: Karmic. Karmic.

Audience: In a way you are changing, by this you can change your past.

GR: No. You’re changing your future. This is the. This is past action for future.

Audience: Yes

GR: So, you’re changing the future.

Audience: Yes. You’re changing the result of the past.

GR: Yeah. You’re changing the result of the past.

Audience: But not the past itself.

GR: But you can’t change the past. The past is past. So, you’re changing the future. You’re not changing the past.

Audience: That also means something that it gives, which is so familiar. Has no use because you can change.

GR: That’s what I keep on saying every day. But people keep on.

Audience: Difficult

GR: Why? No difficulty. No difficulty. I said Angulimala, who killed ninety-nine. What is it? Nine hundred and ninety nine. Ok. That’s it. Who killed nine hundred and ninety-nine human beings and within a matter of week, can purify and become enlightened, then why not. Why not you can give up your guilt. You haven’t done. I’m sure you haven’t killed a Buddha. I’m sure you haven’t killed your father. You haven’t killed your mother. I’m sure you haven’t killed nine hundred people. So, I don’t know why. Why.

Audience: Not in a week.

GR: Yeah. Not in a week. Yeah. The guilt.

Audience: How do you know we didn’t kill.

Audience: I think it’s and very sure.

GR: You know why? My personal feeling. I do have some personal feeling because I don’t know.

0:54:02.6 Since I don’t know about Christianity background, I can’t say. But I think what happens is also everywhere. Same with Eastern and Western religious people do the same thing. So, we also had some problems in earlier. Before Tsongkhapa. They taught a lot of guilt to the people. And what they did, is if you do something, then you have to go and tell some sort of a religious person and where the monastery, where you can confess. That’s what they used to, I think, do it. But then what happened is they misusing this sort of power. Over the people. And that somehow they built up this and they wanted to know what people are doing it. And anybody doing anything against monasteries. Or anything against anybody. So, they will like to know. So, how best will they know? So, you have heavy karma you will go to hell. You do this. You do that. People scared of going to hell and they have to tell somebody. You know, I did this and I want best I can do. Oh, you did that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Ok. Now you listen to me. I tell you exactly what to do. So, this is what we call it, corruption. This is how the religious institute can overtake the life of other people, by knowing their secrets. And using as a corruption. So, that’s why we’re making sure that nobody tells anybody what you did. You remember yourself. And you purify because it’s in your action. So, it’s only you can do it. No third person can do it. No third person has the 0:56:22.3 ink (?) to apply on you. Even it does, it will only apply on your flesh. Or on your skin. Not you. So, that’s why you have to purify yourself. So, that might have been a corruption to overpower people by using guilt. Why? Because why the guilt come? Because you get fear. Guilt is linked with fear. The ultimately the fear is why. What do you fear?

0:57:02.3 Oh, Bawa (?), I have done something terrible. So, therefore now I’m going to be horrible. I’m going to be bad. I’m the most bad. And that brings fear. The fear brings the guilt. Yeah. So, when you can purify, and then nothing to be fear, why you have the guilt? And beside that it is very important that you remember it, when you’re purifying it. Once you purify it. Ha. That’s a very important thing. You have to. Even in Tantra it is that. When you purify it, you have to think that you are purified. Even you say sadhanas. Even you say Vajrasattva. There are portion which says, son or daughter, whatever, you have been purified and now you are pure. So, that’s even the words there. So, you have to realize, that you have been pure now. And once you realize that you are pure, you have to forget about it, what you have done. The reason why you have to purify is to get, forget. When you purify, why remember again? Because it’s done. Then it’s sort of living in the past. Very 0:56:22.3 simple (?) . So, that’s is important.

Audience: There’s something about never judge anyone else because the other can have purified it already

GR: What? That doesn’t matter. Yes. But never judge anybody else. That comes separate. That’s a normal action. You cannot judge people by, you know. Unless you really know the person. With the highest standard. I doubt if you think you know the person. Some people, you know, some people may even act. Some people, you know. One, many of those greatest siddhis. Great person who developed, act like bad people. Really. Really. Like very bad people. Sometimes it’s funny. Like Milarepa during his lifetime they really have a very famous now everybody respects. Right? 0:59:29.6 (??) I mean, (??) Tibetan. I’m sure if he’s living. If he’s really living today, I don’t think we would respect him. He may. He may started running through the streets naked. (laughs) Or, yeah, yeah. Really. He’s naked.

Audience: Naked? Oh yeah.

GR: Naked. Naked. All naked. And he, he got a niece. And niece always goes to see him.

1:00:03.0 And he remains naked. So, niece said, “That’s terrible” and she’s feeling very shy. So, one day she brought little piece of woven cloth. And told him, ok, now, make some clothes and wear it. Don’t. Don’t remain like that. And what he did. He cut all the cloth that she really worked very hard. Cut them in little piece. He cut them all. Made all the fingers. He made all the fingers. All the fingers and his organ. The next time, when she come, he had this; all this five fingers and organ covered. (laughs) And she got so upset. She said, I worked so hard and got that. Now look at you. (laughs) So, that’s Milarepa. So, I mean, like that Ensapa. The great Ensapa. The Nying. Not this. Other Lama Chopa comes from that. Ensapa, you know. Ensapa was very famous. Very rich and famous master. 1:01:19.2 (??) teaching. And thousands and thousands of people. You know. Everybody knows Ensapa. And suddenly one day he’s sort of behaved like he’s mad. He’s like. He totally gone crazy and started running around. And that’s where he really attained enlightenment. And he started acting like a crazy. Totally running and he was naked. Try to. Sort of, tried to do all sorts of funny things. They had to run outside and catch him. That’s much later, you know. Ensapa. And even this, I remember in 1959, about sixty, there’s in Lhasa after coming from Tibet. There is one who are very, very. Sort of very nice and famous master. Sort of prayer to 1:02:09.7 Zong (?) Rimpoche. You know Zong Rimpoche. Lot of people know Zong Rimpoche. He died last year. The other one says prayer to (?) Rimpoche. 1:02:18.5 He’s called * Rimpoche. He’s a funny one, you know. *. * Rimpoche. He died in Lhasa. So * Rimpoche was very famous in Ganden. Zong and * are the most like, two chod masters in Ganden Monastery. * Rimpoche was very well respected. You know. Very well respected. So, in 1959, when I was. When we’re running from Tibet, I met * Rimpoche on the way to India. In the, near Tibetan village in South Tibet. And I was shocked myself, because, you know, was so funny.

1:03:06.4 He was. * Rimpoche was such a. Everybody loved him. You know. Really Sort of, normally you expect great lama like him will come with you with dignity. And suddenly I saw him. I was going through a 1:03:25.8 yellow (?) village. So, I saw this sort of funny looking man on a horse. Very, very, very funny dress. And shouting. Kimball, Kimbal. You know. Kmbal, kimbal is. Is there anybody in this place. You know. Have that. I saw one man. I went up closer, closer. He is wearing a yellow brocade Tibetan layman chuba. Chuba. Yellow brocade. Underneath. On Top of that he is wearing a khaki cotton. On top of that. Really. Huh?

Audience: (?)

GR: Yeah. Khaki, you know, he’s wearing on top of that. Ok. And he got one gun like this. Another gun like this. And the bullets cross his chest like this. And one of, what do you call this? Distance you can see that. Teles.

Audience: Yah, yah.

Audience: We know .

GR: Yes. One of them hanging around. And he’s so fat. So, really huge heavy. And the horse sort of really. Up. One long gun in the back. Very long knife hanging around. I mean, sort of, old Tibetan story legend. I mean, it’s sort of, you know, sort of stories that you have. You know 1:05:13.3 cassock (?) ethics and all this. That type of thing. He’s quite. Is there anybody in . He’s alone. All by himself. So finally, I said * Rimpoche. “Yes, I am”. No, really. He’s behaving funny like that. And he had a tremendous amount of followers. Bodhisattvas. Monks. Tremendous. Since he started going like this, all his disciples. Monks. Collected into one sort of camp. And they called themselves the Ganden Military Regiment. Really.

Audience: Yeah?

GR: Yeah. Ganden truly

Audience: Yeah?

1:06:02.2 GR: Yeah. And because the * Rimpoche behaved like that. And so, all his disciples, sort of picked it. and in Ganden they all went as Ganden Victory Military Regiment. And Zong Rimpoche also joined in there. But because of * Rimpoche, you know. He was (laughs) and then finally we crossed the Indian village. What can monks, you know. They even held the banner down there. They did. One of them had to bring a banner. Then you know, * Rimpoche left earlier, I think. Suddenly. So, sort of , people thought that he left to get to follow him. And then some sort of 1:06:48.3 (?) I think two or three hundred people came out then. So, then he’s going like this. So, everybody sort of thought, you know, then they formed the Ganden regiment camp. Ganden Victoria 1:07:02.2 (Tibetan: Ganden Namgyal ling ..) Victory regiment some. So, later he crossed Indian border. And he came to Lhasa. And then * Rimpoche was. Then, you know, sort of, he’s behaving funny. And then he started running naked up and down and all this. And Zong Rimpoche determined that he had obtained enlightenment now, for sure. Question. The moment Zong said, he had attained enlightenment, he died. He said, what an un-sensitive old man. 1:07:37.6 (Tibetan: ..) That’s how he died. You know. (laughs) Yeah. Sort of, really, since it is fifty nine incident, so it really doesn’t show much. Otherwise it would have been good example. So, he behaved, you know. Some people when obtained, you know, very high level, behave very funny way. Very, very funny way. 1:08:10.4 (??) If I had known it, I would have (??) . Milarepa, Ensapa known as (??) People calls him naga Ensapa.

Audience: (unintelligible)

GR: No, no. But sometimes they do behave. Sometimes they do behave like that. That doesn’t mean they’re going mad. That doesn’t mean they. I mean, really. Sometimes at level they get like that. That level. We cannot copy that level. If you try to copy that level and then we get it. (laughs) They go. We go down.

Audience:

GR: Huh?

Audience: Then you get a regiment.

1:09:03.4 GR; Then you get a regiment. So crazy.

Audience: But they won’t kill people. Huh?

GR: Well

Audience: Kill a lot of people

GR: If they meet Chinese they have to shoot. Otherwise, Chinese will shoot them for sure.

Audience: Ah yeah.

GR: But I don’t think they made the bomb. No, they never made any other too. Though, I can Chinese from Chinese. But to me. We can. We are running. But the Ganden Regiment didn’t meet with Chinese. But they’re going on the horse with all this banners, flying, flop, flop, flop. Rimpoche always. Ganden Victoria.

Audience:

GR: Huh?

Audience: (unintelligible)

GR: Loose. I don’t think so. I mean, * Rimpoche is most certainly young people where he behaved you know. But he had been such a well-known, well-behaved for fourteen years, seventeen years. Such a really example of the Ganden Monastery. After all, Trijang Rimpoche leaves to Lhasa. Sort of, he is the topmost and then Zong Rimpoche comes, you know, like that. Ganden. So, who’s going to look? Unless you have. Ok.

Audience: Can I just ask

GR: Yeah

Audience: And said like if imprints aren’t purified, and you’re going to, start to get a result, and the karma is working. Then we have to go through. Yeah?

GR: There is no way to correct.

Audience: There is no way to correct. And started to work. What is the next step, they have then? Is that the suffering.

GR: No. Anything can happen..

Audience: I mean, what do you experience? Is that just the suffering? Or what, is it by suffering that you’re so wipe it out

Audience: 2: by going through

Audience: Wiping it out or not. This nothing.

GR: The result is you’re wiping out.

Audience: the result is your wiping out.

GR: The result is the wiping out. What you wipe is the result.

Audience; By. Because of happening. Because of

GR: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah. Because it’s overpowered. Like, it’s really like the government, in the government of somebody’s trying to get action against you. And he’s building up action against you. Some powerful person on the top can overrule anything. Then it is wiped out. No matter how many build against you. That’s not happening here? It doesn’t happen here? (laughs) If somebody would like to make trouble to you. By. Say, in government.

1:12:06.5 Ok. That man shouted action against you .

Audience; Yeah.

GR: Saying you’re bad, or you’re spy or you’re this and you do this.

Audience: Yeah

GR: You’re communist or you’re whatever they want to say, they say. All this builds up. Right? So, then it is builds up. And then it is. Then they turn the government, pushing it against you.. Right? Before he builds up. And he builds up. They will .Somebody else has to say, Ok. Now use government mission (?) against you. Right? Before that it goes to somebody. He needs to hear, “Oh, this is not true. I know it for a fact it’s not true. I overlooked.” You know. Sort of, you know. They can overrule anything. Ok. Simple. Lower court makes a judgement for somebody. Ok. This things happening in India. So that may have an influence. May not be happening in France. But the lower court make a decision. Ok? And you’re. Against you. And you go to the higher court and appeal it. You win the case. The higher court decision overrules the lower court. Well, how does the. What happens to lower court decision then?

Audience: it’s wiped out.

GR: it’s wiped out. So, that’s it. So, when you have the karma or action produced and when you purify by four powers, it goes down.

Audience: Yes. But it is not

GR: When it’s wiped out. When it’s wiped out, no implementation will come because it’s wiped out.

Audience: Yes. That I understand. But it’s not possible. You say you have to go through .It has just to work out.

GR: If doesn’t worked out. Ok. If it started functioning.

Audience: Functioning

GR: Then it’s any function. Then you can’t do anything. You have to go through.

Audience: But by going through

GR: Whatever. Whatever the result may be, you have to experience.

Audience: You have to experience. And by experiencing.

GR: Yes. Can be anything.

Audience; Can be anything. Yah. But by experiencing this sort of wiped out too?

GR: Oh, yeah. After experience. Yes. Then you are paid for.

Audience: Yeah.

GR: That’s it. That’s not. Ok. That’s not the lower court orders you. You be locked out for two months. And then you are locked out two months. Then after two months, you have paid. Then you are let out. Because you’re two months paid. Right?

Audience; Yes

GR: Right? That’s it.

Audience: So, it won’t repeat then.

GR: Unh Unh.

Audience; You can recognize, reach result. If result of special cause. For it can be anything.

GR: Not by us. By enlightened people, they can definitely recognize. Not by us. Because our powerlessness. Our capability-less.

1:15:03.8 Ok? Ok. By applying this four power very strongly. Then everything, no matter whatever it may be, it purifies. Except if you are. No, that’s probably. If you are a monk or nun, then there are certain things that you know. It’s not really except. There are particular techniques you have to know. Ok. That’s. Especially against three vows. If you are with the vinaya vow as monk or nun, then you have to purify vinaya vow in a group of monks. As they do. They do. But they don’t say it. They say killing, stealing, etcetera, etcetera. Whatever I have done, I’m purified. That’s what they say. You don’t say, I killed so and so. 1:16:10.3 (?) I’m purified. You don’t say it. Because of avoid correction of the institution. That’s why they don’t say. Killing, Stealing etcetera, whatever I have commit.. Ok? Vinaya vow. Why? Because vinaya rule. You know, vows have two things. You have to realize here. Vow has two things. Two things. Nature of non-virtue and downfall because it’s against vow. Though it may not be nature of non-virtuous. But breaking vow. Do you get it? Huh? Huh?

Audience: Maybe you say it

GR: Hmm?

Audience: Maybe can give us.

GR: For instance, if you take eight precepts. You people took precept, right? So, when you take Mahayana precepts. Eight Mahayana precepts. Ok? So, when you took eight Mahayana precepts, in the twenty-four hours, you are not supposed to drink alcohol or eat meat. Ok? If you did. If you eat meat or if you drink wine, or alcohol in twenty-four hours, you are breaking vow. That is not non-virtuous. By nature of drinking alcohol or eating meat is not a non-virtuous.

1:18:00.2 But you get downfall on that day, because you are breaking vow. So, breaking vow has two things. Somehow, though it is by nature it is not non-virtuous, but you are going against set of rule. Against set of precepts. So, therefore it is downfall, but not non-virtuous. And certain are by nature it is non-virtuous. Like killing. You break vow, because of the rule. You also. You also get non-virtuous. Ok? So, there are two kinds of power for breaking vows. By nature of non-virtuous and by just breaking the rules. So, when you purify, and you purify, it’s all of them together. For example, if you are purifying non-virtuous. All non-virtuous by applying four power, it purifies nature of non-virtuous. But breaking vow, point. Since it is breaking vow, it also has its separate rule of purifying. That is through the special confession gambling, then you say confess. Confess and purify. That is for bikkshu vows. That’s monks and nuns. Don’t apply for us. Now bodhisattva vow is the. Breaking point of the bodhisattva vow, purify to lama Buddha bodhisattva. Because you took bodhisattva vow from Lama Buddha Bodhisattva. So, therefore you have to purify it to Lama Buddha Bodhisattva. Tantric vow, you have taken through the Lama Vajradhara with the mandala, so it is purified through Lama Vajradhara with mandala. These are the special things. I don’t think it applies to the action, nature of non-virtuous actions, but nature of breaking vows. It applies. So, that’s why it even indicated here separately. Transgression of three vows. I have accumulated from the beginning. Whatever the non-virtuous of body, speech and mind I have accumulated from the beginningless time. Especially any transgression of my three vows. Forgive.

1:21:03.3 Which is by nature, it may not be. Ok? That’s it. Now. The next is rejoice. That’s easy. That’s easy. I just want to cover that. Rejoice. Rejoice is very easy work. That is, Tsongkhapa had said, 1:21:56.8 (Tibetan:..) Without much effort, if you want good benefit, you rejoice. Without doing much hard work. If you want good benefit you have to rejoice. Rejoice.

Audience; (conversation)

GR: Ok. What we do. We. Our bad habit is, whenever we see somebody doing something good, especially our colleagues. Especially our friends. If somebody doing something good, what do we do? We get jealous probably. Yeah. Many people do get jealous. They get jealous all the time. They say, “Well. We’re doing. We’re doing well. Well yeah. Yesh but “ Yeah yeah there is. You know, sort of, you get a lot of jealousy. Instead of, if somebody doing something good, you may think. “Ah. That’s just an act. They’re pretending to be So, always you try to make it. You try. You cannot deny but you try to put a tail there. Something. That always people does. Always. It is human nature. Why, because it’s jealousy. Because jealousy. Nothing I say jealousy. Just because of jealousy they’re doing it. So, by getting jealousy you get more non-virtuous than that of benefit to yourself. You know. That is by virtue. It is non-virtuous act. So, you get more trouble and more pain in the long run. Rather than. (?).

1:24:01.4 Right? Instead if you rejoice. Instead if you rejoice. Hmm?

Audience; A good act

GR: Yes. If you rejoice then you get benefits.

Audience: But it think you have to do this with your whole heart.

GR: Sure

Audience: And that’s very. It’s very easy to try to turn it. No. Not easy. To say that you rejoice, but to do it is very hard.

GR: Yeah. You should. You can do it. Not difficult. Never too. It doesn’t. It’s not difficult, really. It is easy .It is with very little effort, you can get tremendous benefit. The work by somebody else, you get benefits. That is . What is 1:25:18.6 invest difficult (?). Really. Somebody does all the work and you get all the .benefit Yeah.

Audience: you can focus

GR: That’s

Audience: But it sounds very economical, if you can do it.

GR: Yeah.

GR: it is easy. I don’t know how easy. So, you can. First you have to. If you’re really, your mind’s very hard, then rejoice your good work. Whatever you have done good work. Past. Whatever you have done good or “I did this. That’s good.” Yeah. Enjoy it. Remember this. I was lucky to be able to do that. Rejoice. And whatever the benefit you get of those days. Those days. It will be . Yeah. 1:26:12.5 (Tibetan:…) So, then persons that you are not jealousy. Persons you respect. You know respected persons outside. In our case. You know, like Buddha, Tsongkhapa. There’s no jealousy Buddha and Tsongkhapa. Jesus Christ. All this. You know Jesus Christ what they did. That’s also good. Then you go along living persons. That you have great respect for. And you rejoice there. Like the case of Dalai Lama. Like this, like that. Rejoice. Or whatever it is. Whoever.

1:27:03.7 Ok? Then your friends that you like most. And whatever they did good and this and that. And then you do the person you don’t like. Whatever they do. Think about it “Oh, he goes on doing something.” And whether it is. Whether intention is good or bad, action whatever he or she did is wonderful. So, I rejoice. You can’t say they are not, 1:27:29.1 (?) Whatever he’s doing, he’s doing his best. Here jinks (?) , you know? And that is his duty and his action. He’s trying to do this. So, that’s it. It’s not necessary you have to accept what he did, but rejoice what he did. So. If you rejoice a thousand bodhisattvas and their activities. Enlightened people. At least you get half the benefit on that one. A person who is equal to you in spiritual standards. If you rejoice there is all the activities, you get equal benefit whatever this act. Ok? Person who is below you. Lower than you. If you rejoice their good work. You get double the benefit. She works or he works hard and you get double that. So, that’s why with effortless benefit. That’s what Tsongkhapa called this method, effortless method. Effortless benefit. So, seven branch prayer. If you look at seven branch. Each one of them has tremendous benefit. Each one of them has so much purpose. So, that’s why. That’s why Shantideva’s Bodhisattvacharyavatara said, 1:29:03.2 (Tibetan: ) Buddhas taught for a number of eons and found this is the best. 1:29:16.6 (Tibetan: Ge wa tun ba.) Buddhas taught for eons and found this is best. Get my point? So, that’s why all the best method available out of millions of books, selected and read the seven and easy to practice. Recommended person to read it. So, it’s very good. And so, now before we go to the next thing, stop here for a while. Yeah.

1:30:03.7 Request to remain ever

Audience; To remain ever. Oh.

GR: So, this should be my last point.

Audience: Because they didn’t know

GR: Oh. Visualizations here, when you request to give teaching, you visualize that you offer golden dharma chakra. Dharma gold, dharma chakra. Gold Really. Dharma Chakra. Dharma chakra is the. That’s why symbolic. Becomes symbolic of Buddha’s teaching. So, that’s why you find there are many Buddhist people are starting to use the wheel as emblem. Or maybe the monasteries have the wheel on the top. Many of the temples have the wheels and animals and all these are symbolic coming from here. That’s the one. Now the last one is the dedication

Audience: Yeah

GR: Because as I mentioned to you earlier, there are two activities. Activity of the preliminary. And the activity of first and the activity of last. Activity of first is, good motivation. Which we have already mentioned. Now the last activity is the dedication. Uh Huh. I dedicate whatever the virtue I have ever collected for the benefit of the teaching and teachings and of all sentient beings and in particular the essential teaching of the Venerable Losang Drakpa to shine forever. That’s it. So, now the last is dedication. Why dedication is important? Because two activities. Beginning activities and the ending activities. Ending activity is the dedication. If you have dedicated your work for something, whatever good or bad may be, it gives you lot of safeguards. Safeguards. Such as if you have committed good virtue and if you have not dedicated, not dedicated, then those virtues can be destroyed by way of anger. A person get angry. Hm?

1:33:10.7 The anger can destroy the virtue. Good work. Virtue. But if its dedicated, it cannot be destroyed. The reason why, when you dedicate it, that means you are earmarking your particular work for certain particular purposes. Since the karma is definite. So, when you have earmarked, then it remains for that purposes. Because karma is definite. Definite. So, therefore, even you get angry, it will not get destroyed. Because your dedication has not been fulfilled. Therefore, every virtue, good work, whatever you do, it is recommended to dedicate. Dedicate. Because whatever the dedication’s done, that fulfils it is not going to finish. Now for what do you dedicate? Dedicate the most beneficial way. Like Buddha’s and bodhisattvas. Wherever they dedicated, their good virtue, we will also mix whatever our little virtue there, we will be mixed with them and go with. If you do that, what benefit will you get? Because Buddhas and Bodhisattvas virtues are just like great ocean. They will be endless. They have tremendous scope. Right? We have very little. But if we put our drop of work in the ocean of Buddhas and bodhisattvas virtue, so our drop will last as long as the ocean lasts. There is interesting example I should give you. It may not make sense here. There were two travelers in Tibet coming from a distance from the border area to the central Tibet, two travelers. Ok. In Tibet, what happened is, it’s interesting, little economic and the better people have the tsampa, the staple food. They eat barley flour, of the powder of barley The little poor people cannot afford the real barley, the hundred percent way, so they have a mixture of pea, grain

*can not distinguish the name. Sounds like Dagyab or Tarab (?)