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Sound file 19970505GRJHNLWID08619871116GR&RTMN2_01

Speaker Gelek Rimpoche & Robert Thurman

Location Jewel Heart Netherlands??

Topic Tibet Mystic NationWorking on Inner Growth

Transcriber Vickii Cahill

Date March 30, 2022

GR: Or not. (DT) Pity-ness should not. Should not have it. (DT) Should not have it. Why it should not have it? (DT) Because compassion should be caring mind. (DT) The caring mind should care the person. (DT) Caring mind should not have looking down. (DT) Looking yourself as a superior. (DT) And the, the object on whom you are caring is something lower than you. (DT) Something helpless. (DT) Should not be in the thought of compassion. (DT) The compassion doesn’t recognize, in my opinion. The compassion does not really recognize you are better position and the other is weaker position. (DT) It may be reality true. (DT) It may not be true. (DT) But from the mind point of compassion, I don’t think they look in that way. (DT) I don’t think it, the Buddhas were never thinking, “Oh, poor beings.” (DT) But the Buddhas always think how best way I can be. How can I help? They always think. (DT) That’s my opinion. But then, question is, whether the idea of pity-ness is associated as, “Do, I do. The way I look.” But it might not. You know, looking you’re superior. The other is weaker. And this and that. You may, may not. I don’t know. (DT)

0:03:12.1 Or we try to pool our thoughts together using our experience. Using our knowledge. Intellectual knowledge and practical experience. Try to pull our thoughts together and we try to get on those points. Rather than bringing the traditional teachings way of putting it. This is this. This is this. This is that. You know. This is the definition of that. This is the definition of that. We do. I mean, there’s a tremendous amount of the whole Buddhist, chayavatara and all this are full of definitions of love and compassion and all this. But we’re not going against that. But we are putting our thoughts together and try to bring it so that we have some kind of understanding or realization of what really love and what really compassion is. And from there you can hold your own. So, that’s what we’re doing. (DT) This is how do we, we used to do that. This is the Tibetan Buddhist used to teach that way. (DT) But then when you do, looks shall be; it is so important that we have all the people’s idea pulled together. We pull all our ideas together. And then we get it. It is much better and much more helpful than that. Than that, I bring it, a book. Read it to you and then tell you, “Book says this. This is that.” (DT) After all, we are intelligent, educated people. And a lot of you are brilliant people, so we have to make best use of the brilliant-ness.

0:06:06.9 (DT)

Translator: Brilliant. Did you say brilliant?

GR: Brilliant. (DT) So, basically my thoughts of, of love and compassion. So, what is love. What is compassion? And. And also looking them as one mind. And seeing them, two aspects. That’s because I brought the napkin. So. So, which is, I thought is important to share with you. (DT) And after sharing that with you and then you will think with your thoughts and you will think. And then what I’d like to now do is the, the question that, like, you know, “How do I get?” How can I develop compassion? Or how can I improve my compassion? Or what does compassion brings? What do I gain out of it? Again, the question of, “What’s in there for me?” (laughs) (DT) Normally when we look in our life, we care for the people. And just because you are people, that is it, to some persons. But many of us in our life experience, when we look, we care more to the person that we know well. Rather than, you are just a person. (DT)

0:09:05.1 And not only we care more for the person you know. But if you’re more close and the person had been helped you before. And the person has been kind to you before. And somehow, we care more to that person than that of, just because we know. (DT) And not only that, and if you really love the person, really strongly, deeply love the person, then you really care much for. (DT) So much so that you are willing to go out of the way even to fight for. (laughs) (DT) Is that true or not? So. So, that way we get an idea. And how the love and compassion, how the love and compassion can grow within the individual. (DT) I also believe unless we have a very strong love, a strong compassion is difficult to bring in. (DT) Because of the love, then the caring will come. As we know with only one person to person. Individual to individual basis. When you look at, we know that. (DT) Perhaps for that reason why Buddha tells, tells look everybody as your closest nearest dearest mother being. (DT)

0:12:12.1 And which is the famous Buddhist teaching. Look everybody as your mother. (DT) And of course and particularly nowadays. I don’t know whether that’s the good thing to do or not. (DT) Looks everybody will say, “Oh, mother, come on.” Says, “Oh, mother, come on.” (DT) But it’s interesting. Whether Buddha’s telling everybody to look everybody as mother is. The question is. I’ve been wondering. The question is, “Are we supposed to look from our window?” From this individual. Our window. To the mother, who’s ninety percent activity, we disagree. (DT) Or look from the mother’s window to children. (DT) To her children. (DT) How much they are willing to sacrifice without question. Or forget it condition. But without even question. How much they are willing to sacrifice. (DT) I don’t know. I’ve never been mother. (DT) But there are many of you who’ve been mother. (DT) And you judge from your own mind. And don’t look to your mother. Look to your children and how you care. (DT)

0:15:04.7 And I’ve been observer. I’ve been observing. And when you’re observing, you see this clearly. The mother’s unconditional love is there for the children. (DT) Look from your own mother’s window. Become yourself mother. And then look. (DT) And there’s a big surprise. Really big surprise. I think mother’s more than self. If you look to your children and how you feel. You know. It’s a big surprise. I just want you to think about it. A little bit on that. I don’t want to say it’s good or bad or anything. I simply say, think about it. Sometimes it’s good to look from a different window and find some surprise. (laughs) (DT) And some of younger, young, younger person, you know, young people may not get the idea right now. (laughs) (DT) But when the time comes, you’ll know. (laughs) (DT)

Audience: Can I ask something? Or say, last night there was a program on television about how the mind works, by chemicals in the mind. And it said, the mother was just got a child produces more substance of; chemical substance in her brain that makes her more 0:17:11.0 courtesy (?) to her child. And they’re finding out more and more of these things, happening in the brain. This chemicals. What do you think about that?

GR: Oh, definitely possible. Definitely possible. I mean, I’m sorry but. Why don’t you say in Dutch yourself. You speak, you speak 0:17:32.5 (??)

0:17:36.3 Audience: (Dutch)

0:18:31.0 GR: So, since you asked me my opinion. It’s definitely possible. You know why? The mind and the bodies, they work so close. You have no idea. I mean, we have, there’s a big surprise we’ll discover. I think shouldn’t say so, but it really, there’s a big surprise. There’s a tremendous connection between the mind and the body. So that according to the mind level and the body started producing a suitable chemical. That’s how it. That’s why this human body is so precious. And it is capable of necessary chemicals to be able to produce by the body according to the need and 0:19:20.4 tone (?) and the mood of the, of the individual mind. As well as, when the mind is not happy. When the mind is not happy and when you have difficulties, the brain started producing different chemicals and then that will support the mind capacity and give you a chemical unbalance. And that’s why you get those depression pills and so and forth. Try to balance the body up. So, the mind. I mean, at least in my view, the human body is equally capable to function and support human mind. And it works. And as a scientist. Not according to me, but the scientist. They can only see the chemical part of it. They don’t. They don’t like to observe the mind. So, the. So, their focus is on the chemical, so they see it. That’s my opinion. I could be wrong. I’m not saying that I’m right. But I could be really wrong. But that’s, I think it’s functioning. As a matter of fact, that doesn’t go against. As a matter of fact, that doesn’t go against the doctrine either. (laughs) Huh? What?

Marianne: It supports

GR: What

Marianne: It supports

GR: It supports. Yes. It supports. Yes.

0:20:57.5 Translator: So, we have quite a ?? (Dutch)

0:22:09.5 GR: And those of you who are playing with chi, you know that well. So, wherever you’re directing your chi, and if your mind focus on, whether it’s the finger point or the palms or the physical, wherever it is. And the moment you put mind in there, you’ll see the chi effect differently, as you should know. Right? So, this is the. This. This shows you how the body reacts and functioned according to the direction of the mind. And if you’re not paying any attention, chi is not moving. The moment you pay attention, chi moves. Right? (DT) I used the chi as example just because before, before lunch; just before that; so we demonstrated to us. So, that’s why it came in fresh in my head. So easy to use. That’s the only reason. Not the reason. (laughs) (DT) So, the totally, the most important is the; still the mind is the boss.

0:24:00.1 Not the physical. (DT) And so mind in the body makes us living and life. (DT) And mindless body becomes, what? Corpse. (laughs) (DT) So, so still the mind is the most important. There’s no question. (DT) I always wish those scientists, they will look in mind. (laughs) (DT) And I think they begin. That’s why you have psychologists and psychotherapists and psychiatric and all these different names are coming up. (DT) Are you a psychologist?

Audience: No, no. I practice tai chi.

GR: Oh, you do.

Audience: Yeah. I’m wondering if, if the tai chi meditation and the Buddhist meditation. Is there, you know. Is there a conflict? Or is it?

GR: Meditation. I mean, people don’t. People don’t make it clear. Truly speaking, the meditation is two. Meditation is a gadget. Meditation is mechanism. Neither the meditation is neither Buddhism nor Taoism, nor Hinduism nor Christian. Nothing. It is a tool. It is gadget. It is your; those workshop keys people use in the mental workshop. (laughs) (DT) When I say workshop, I don’t mean workshop like this. I mean, the car garage. (DT)

0:27:05.5 So. So, truly that is the meditation. And people must make clarity on that. And you know the meditation, the tool has been used by Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and comes out as presenting. So, you may think it is Hinduism, Buddhism. All these ism’s. You know. But the true reality is, the meditation is independent. It is the; it is the gadget. Anybody can use it to have fine tuning on your car. (DT) The concentrated meditation. What does that do? They train people. They give you the training; how to focus. Don’t lose your attention. Focus. Sit on. Focus, focus, focus. And that’s. Meditation can even be used to; in your business. Nothing wrong with that. It is tool. (DT) Analytical meditation will try to show you how to find the truth. The deepest. The deeper; deeper in. Get out. How can you get into deeper. And then come from what you’re finding. (DT) So, it can be used for any profession. (DT) So, that’s my opinion. So, anybody has any thoughts, opinions on that. Sir.

Audience 2: (Dutch)

0:30:03.0 Translator: (Dutch) The gentleman had a question about compassion and pity. Should. Could you say that pity has to do with conceptual?

Audience 2: Thinking

Translator: With conceptual thinking. And compassion has to do with

Audience 2: Direct undefined

Translator: Experience. Direct undefined experience.

GR: I think compassion also has, has the conceptual thinking and pity-ness also has the direct experience. I’m quite sure both ways it will work. (DT) But I like to make a division between that. Pity-ness has an individual, whoever is generating pity on me, have a sort of ego problem. And I mean, I didn’t say earlier so clearly. Just because you may not like to hear it. But to make it clear, people whoever, whoever projecting pity-ness on anybody has a big ego problem. (DT) If you really look truly. Truly. And what is difference between, you know, the people? But that is not difference at all. (DT) Some are. happens to be richer. Some are, happens to be more prettier. Some are, happens to be more learned, more intellectual than others. It just happens to be. (DT) And tomorrow it will change again. (DT) So, what is. What is there? There’s nothing really truly. What is there to be superior and non-superior. There is nothing. (DT) It’s true. The truth is the equality is the really important. It is the reality. (DT)

0:33:03.7 And that’s the. People don’t see that. Many people don’t see that. (DT) And that’s why they have a. They build up their ego. (DT) I’m better than them, because I face down. (laughs) Because I have throne. (laughs) Because I have this throne. (DT) But when I get up, I’m out of the throne. So, I mean, really. And people use any excuse to build ego. (DT) So. So, that’s; that’s what it is. So, I always associate the pity-ness feeling with the ego problem. Whoever feels somebody pity. (DT) And pride. (DT)

Audience: (dutch)

Translator: And if you turn it around, could you say that compassion doesn’t know an ego?

GR: Well, it depends how strong the compassion is. (DT) If the compassion is weak, it will be at service of the ego. If the compassion is strong, then it will destroy the ego. (DT)I think that is the battle that we have to fight within ourselves. (DT) And the weapons what we use in that. The tools what we use in that. Instead of. Instead of bombs and cannons, we use the meditation. (DT)

Translator: (Coughs) Sorry. (DT)

GR: Do you have, do you have water there? You do. Ok. So. So, I believe that is how it works. So, the Buddha sort of saw that and made it so important that the people bringing closer to people. (DT)

0:36:01.1 And also, Buddha also saw this important, that egoless-ness is how important it is. (DT) Buddha insists that, according to his experience, insists that we have to develop compassion as strong as when a mother has an only child. Only one child. So, the mother has undivided attention of total love on that child. So, Buddha insists we should have that much love to all. To all. (DT) So, I mean, this is the Buddhist point of view. Whether we can do it to that level or not is a different issue. But we can push ourselves as much as we could. So, whatever it may be, the closeness to the people, bring the people. You know, your caring to the people together. Closeness. Bringing close relation. Closeness. Which is very important. (DT) The. We’re so used to it for division. Dividing. Or boundaries. So, nations divide with the boundary.

Translator: Sorry

GR: The nations divide with the boundary. (DT) People divide among themselves with the color of skin. (DT) Or look. (DT)

0:38:58.9 Or anything, language or culture or custom. Who knows? (DT) You’ll find countless basis on which we divide. (DT) And when you grow, when you are growing and you’ll see they’re meaningless. (DT) Even look in Europe. I mean, this is how I think. You look in Europe. Maybe I’m wrong. If I’m wrong, tell me. Look in Europe. (DT) You fought the war. Tried to divide or conquer. (DT) And you fought to protecting the boundary. Right? One side is fought to protect boundary. The other side fought how to conquer. (DT) Right? Now the people see. Ha. You need to unite. (DT) I don’t know whether the Dutch fought the European, what you call it?

Translator: Community

GR: Oh, community’s there. But now it’s becoming like one solid. What?

Translator: Union

GR: Union. Yeah. (DT) I don’t know whether your majority is for or against. I don’t. I’m not here. You know better. It’s for. Majority is for. 0:41:04.3 Fifty (?) ok? Well. Now, you know, John Major’s gone. So. (laughs) It seems the conservative people don’t get much chance to stay. (DT) Should have gone four years ago. (DT) But he got extension for four more years. (DT) But I’m glad he’s gone now. (DT)

0:42:03.4 I always make jokes on this in our meetings in America between the republicans and the democrats. Because the republicans are conservative. The democrats are liberal. (DT) And so much so that our Jewel Heart lawyer started warning me, “If you keep on talking that, you’ll lose the non-profit status. “ (DT) So. So, whenever I’m talking. I’m giving lectures, talking, whether there’s a five, six, seven hundred people, or whatever, I have little hesitation. I used. You know, my nature open, so I used the democratic and republican purpose in there. So, now I try to be a little quieter. (DT) No, no. The truth is speaking the wisdom mind. The open mind begins to see the value of uniting together, rather than dividing. That’s my view. I don’t know .Maybe you. Maybe I’m wrong. But (DT) And even, even on the other side of the ocean, they tried to have the very similar thing, but they call it NAFTA. The Canadians and the Mexicans and they wanted to extend to down. You know. (DT). But of course, the conservatives are not happy with that at all anyway. (laughs) (DT) So. So, the. So, the equality and unity is a tremendous value for compassion too. I mean, don’t think of the economic values alone. People. Politicians may be thinking from the economic point of view. And we should look from the compassion point of view. From the spiritual point of view. From the human value point of view. And really, you see it. The equality among the people and

Translator: Unity

GR: unity. (DT)

0:45:11.0 The Dalai Lama says, the last century, which is going, or gone, whatever. Two more years or three more or four more, whatever is left, but. The century which is going. And he says. His thought. He observed that as a century of confrontation, fighting wars and confrontation. (DT) And he’s looking forward for the new millennium, which is going to be understanding and uniting and sharing and. He call it dialog. Because he wants China to come and talk to him. (laughs) So, he calls it dialog. (DT) Because he should be really for the century of uniting and dialog, openness. Rather than close and confronting and dividing. (DT) This is the principle of love and compassion. (DT) and you never hear, the Buddhas only love the Shakya’s. So, if Buddha only cared the Shakya’s, there’ll be a problem, right? (DT) And probably that person is not even a Buddha. (DT) So, having said that. Having said that, there are something called greater compassion, and greater love and this and that. But I believe the love and compassion is; we have to build by ourselves by practicing in your own home. (DT) There’s a good American saying for this, “Charity begins at home.” (Laughs) (DT) Maybe it’s not, I mean, maybe it is all Western saying. I don’t know.

0:48:00.2 I heard it in America. Charity begins at home. So, the love compassion begins at home. (DT) How do you say that in Dutch?

Translator: We have an alternative. If you want to 0:48:21.5 conquer (?) the world, start with yourself.

GR: Ok. Whatever you say. But if you compare the message 0:48:27.2 (??). Because I don’t know. Whatever you say. 0:48:29.5 I won’t hear (?) (laughs) So, the charity begins at home. The love compassion begins at home. (DT) The people that you live with you. Your companion. Your friends. Your children. Whoever. Your parents. Whoever is living with you. I mean, whoever you’re spending time with you. And it begins from there. You know, sometimes we, the Buddhists have a problem. (DT) The problem is, we wanted too much out to all sentient beings. We want include everything in. (DT) Not only the human beings, but the animals, cockroaches and ants. Yeah. (DT) And the wild animals. And if you want, the snakes, the crocodiles. You know. Everybody. And not only that. Even there’s, those who live in different planets. (DT) We don’t even have. We don’t even know how they look like, you know. (DT) Maybe the Captain Kirk can tell us.

Translator: What is this?

GR: What they look like.

Translator: Captain Kirk

GR: Or if not, Jean Luc. (DT) I mean, that’s a joke.

0:51:05.2 But the truth is, you know. We try to include so much so, so that it becomes a nameless, faceless dots. (DT) And when it become nameless, faceless, dots, and then it lose it’s value. (DT) You know, the Buddhist instructions will tell you that you’re here. And all your, all your, the males relations at your right side. And the female relations at your left side. All your friends at the back and enemies in the front and then every sentient beings filled all the grounds. And you’re here leading them or pleading, whatever. You know. So, we do that. We tell you that. But that also has a problem. (DT) Yeah. It is not. It is not the problem of instruction. (DT) It is the problem of translating the instructions into practical practice. (DT) So, what do we do? We close our eyes and sort of bunch of nameless faceless dots and then you’re here, leading them. (DT) And one day, these nameless, faceless dots; maybe one of them has a name and a face. (DT) Suddenly. And they disagree with you. (DT) And you get a shock. Right? And you tell them, “You’re not supposed to disagree with me. You’re supposed to listen what I tell you.” (DT) And this is the problem of translation of the instruction in the practical level. That’s we faced problem. (DT)

0:54:01.1 And that’s also not bad. Sometimes even worse than that. (DT) And instead of building compassion, you build ego. (DT) And then you become more arrogant than anything else. You lose your value of human. What’s it called? Human. Human.

Audience: Humanity

GR: Humanity. No. Not humanity. Sort of very.

Audience: Humility

GR: Humility. That’s it. You lose the value of humility and builds ego, arrogance. A lot of people do that. (DT) And this is for specially warning for the senior friends here. (laughs) (DT) Yeah. Really. You try to meditate every day and then you happen all this nameless, faceless, dots and then you get into problem. So, that is something you have to be very aware of it. (DT) And mind you, the Buddha’s message, instruction has nothing wrong. Our translation and application goes wrong. (DT) Ok. Now. Oh, do we have to take break? Ok. That’s true. We have to take a break. It’d be nice to take break. Even you’re bored.

0:55:57.0 (bell) So, welcome back for second part of the second session. And we’re still talking about the love and compassion. But basically, we do have a sort of consensus and also the idea. Really, I hope it is sort of merging in with everybody that is the love’s main thing is really caring and wishing and desire to make the people, including yourself, happy. You don’t really have to have the love compassion looking out, alone. You should also have the love compassion on yourself. After all. After all. I am a part of all sentient beings.

0:57:00.6 You can’t say, “You’re not all sentient beings. Get out of my way.” You know that joke. You have heard that before.Yeah. So. (DT) That’s the love part of it. (DT) And the compassion part of it is actually going out of the way. Helping to make it happen; what the love is really wishing it. (DT) Because of (DT) I’m sorry

Translator: I’m sorry

GR: Because of that statement, you may think love is passive and compassion is active. It’s not. (DT) I don’t mean that. Ok. (DT) Both are active. (DT) So. Because the way I said it, it sound, look like, love wishes and compassion goes and do it. You know. It doesn’t mean that. (DT) Then I urge you, the love and compassion both becomes at the family level.

Translator: Emerge?

GR: This is why. Emerging. (DT) and all of your compassion. They are mostly the person you spend time most. You know, whoever. And then keep on expanding it. And then expand to all family. (DT) Then to the friends of the family. (DT) And then going beyond, you know. (DT) So, ultimately to all beings. (DT) So. And with. You will know how strong your love is. How compassion your love is. For a how many people you can think.

1:00:06.1 Ok? Not only the family but all the, all the Dutch people. (DT) Not only the Dutch people but also for the Germans. (laughs) (DT) Forgive me. I’m sorry. I mean. The whole Europe. (laughs) (DT) And Americans (DT) Asians (DT) Tibetans (DT) Chinese (DT) Yeah, really. So, sort of really, at least the whole human beings. (DT) And then of course the animals nearby. Don’t forget them either, you know. They’re great too. (DT) They’re important. And of course, the environment. That is very close to our nose. It is also important. Yes?

Audience: Does it also include our deceased loved ones and

GR: Of course. What’s wrong with that?

Audience: I wondered because they’re dying.

GR: Yeah. Sure. Deceased loved ones. Definitely. (DT) Deceased. Deceased loved ones. Particularly sort of recent ones, not only included but also have right to demand from you the dedication of your positive things. I mean. I’m putting that right out. Instead of saying that you should dedicate your positive karmas. But I say that they have right to demand. (laughs) They get a little stronger statement because they’re not there. (Laughs) (DT) So. So, that’s that way. And now the question of what we did not talk about, “How we develop.” (DT) I mean, did. We did talk to how to develop. We begin with the family and all this. (DT) And but, but the most easy way to develop is remembering the quality of the other person. (DT)

1:03:04.5 The quality. And their kindness sharing towards you. (DT) Their dedication. (DT) And their help you. They been help. (DT) Giving you helping hand. (DT) So that, that brings you closer to them. (DT) See, human mind is such a thing. Such a mind and if your work with the negative side, it builds negative. (DT) And if you keep on thinking; Why should I be the one who have to wash the dishes all the time? (DT) Why should I have to do the laundry all the time? (DT) Why should I have to go and do the shopping all the time? (DT) And then you begin to forget the other person did it, you know? (DT) And if you remember; yeah. Once. Then. (DT) Then count. You’ll find two. Yeah. Only two. Then you count. You’ll find three or four more. Four or five more. So, this is how. How our mind looks. (DT) So, helping yourself. Meaning, making yourself see not only the positive, but really true. What there really is. You know? In truth they all have helped. (DT) Both have helped. Both worked. Or I mean, maybe that’s two people I’m saying. Both helped. Both worked. (DT) And, or did everything. (DT) So, we happen to see when I did it only. (DT) So, looking that way and appreciation of the companionship. (DT) And even you, even you don’t like your mother or the mother-in-law. (DT) But you have to appreciate the life that you have received. (DT)

1:06:03.0 The life, your spouse, which you like so much has received. (DT) So, even mother-in-law has done something great. (DT) So, but really. And looking from the positive way. Remembering their kindness. Remembering how important they have been in part of your life. How they’re helpful to you. From that way, then you. Without telling yourself, I have to be compassionate. But the compassion and love automatically grows. (DT) You know what I mean? It automatically grows. Let it grow automatically. Give all the conditions. And let it grow. (DT) And there’s some people who say, “I have to have compassion. I have to have love.” (DT) And then more you say, “I have to have compassion.” The more you say, “I have to have love.” More you get angry. (DT) That because you don’t provide the condition for the love to grow. (DT) And yet you try to force yourself to have love. (DT) So, actually you are tearing yourself in two parts. Pulling and pushing. (DT) That creates difficult for yourself (DT) Additional torture. Additional torture. (DT) Given by yourself. (DT) To yourself. (DT) For your own suffering. (laughs) (DT) Do you want more? So, I mean really recognize that. (DT) And don’t tell yourself, “I have to have love or compassion.” Provide the condition. (DT) And love compassion will grow. (DT) And those of us. Those of us who are in Jewel Heart.

1:09:03.2 (DT) What it’s called Jewel Heart. (DT) And that is the compassion and love. (DT) And so. So, we are supposed to follow the Buddha’s footstep. (DT) And then way we think it’s even more than what we talk now. (DT) And you compare with the persons that you care. (DT) And yourself. (DT) And see what that person wants. (DT) And see what I want. (DT) And finally you are going to find the same thing. That person wants “no suffering”. (DT) And that person also have no satisfaction with joy either. (laughs) (DT) And so am I. (DT) Me too. So, me and my friend. What is difference? (DT) What he or she wants is what I wants. (DT) What she or he doesn’t want, I doesn’t want. (DT) So, why should I select myself more important than he or she? (DT) Why should I consider “me” more important than he or she. (DT) So, I hope, I’ll be able to choose she or he before me. (DT) Are you following me? Good. Why this is necessary. (DT) By cherishing myself more important than others. (DT)

1:12:01.4 Created all my sufferings. (DT) And look back. (DT) Any the sufferings that you have. (DT) Particularly emotional. (DT) And mental. (DT) Where it’s coming from. (DT) Because “me” not satisfied. (DT) Something’s not right for me. (DT) I’m not happy enough. (DT) My interests are not fulfilled. Not looked. (DT) You know that. These are the reasons we have our, most of our emotional problems. Because our ego get hurt. (DT) Ego get hurt because ego didn’t get enough attention. (DT) So, it is, “me, me, me” (DT) Are you with me? So, most of our negative emotions. Not only emotions, emotional problems, are coming from because of “me, me, me”. (DT) So, for change if you let “me” go. (laughs) (DT) Let “me, me” go. (DT) Him or her. Him or her. Him or her. (DT) If you are going to be able to do that. (DT) Then all this pains that we went through, which was not necessary. (DT) Right or wrong? Not only, the pains are not necessary, you have gained tremendous quality. (DT) Quality of loving. (DT) Quality of caring. (DT) Quality of. Even the quality of respecting by others. (DT) Admiration from others. (DT) You can be example for the others. (DT)

1:15:00.6 So, didn’t we make mistake or not? By not letting “me, me” go. (DT) Do you see that? And that’s why it is important; let “me, me” go. (DT) So, let’s switch. (DT) Where me is. Put him or her. (DT) And where him or her is, put me there. (DT) And how wonderful it will be. (DT) It is the opening door of happiness in life. Truly. Believe me. (DT) And then if you people have any idea of tonglen, then use it over here. (DT) And if you don’t have idea of tonglen, I don’t think it is subject for me to talk today. (DT) Huh? Did you say something? Ok. Huh? You can read it. Alright. You read it. Huh? Oh, I give this 1:16:59.8 (?). Alright. Thank you. (DT) And then, remember it. (DT) So that, if you look back for our life. Like say, last ten years. Or five years. Or fifteen years. Whatever. So, if you are really looking all this, sort of very, lot of trouble that we had. Physical pain, illness is something else. Maybe some of them cause. Maybe didn’t cause. But a lot of negative emotional thing. Even chemical unbalance. All of. Many of them is because way and how we approach. And way and how we, how we, how we look ourself. And way and how we make “me” more important than “him or her”. (DT)

1:18:19.8 And for the Buddhist.

DHOR NA JI PA RANG DHON KHO NA DHANG

THUP WANG ZHAN DHON BA ZHIH ZEY PA YI

KYON DHANG YON TEN YER WA TOG PEI LO

DHAG ZHAN NYAM JE NU PAR JIN GYI LOP

Did you hear that? In short. In short, for Buddhist there’s a verse in Lama Chopa. It says, In short, that ourself, we always thinking about “self “more important and self-purposes. And Buddhas have been thinking always others. And for the others benefit. And then who got better at the end and compare it. Find out for yourself. (DT) Do you have that here? In the lojong part. You can read it.

Marianne: In brief, infantile beings labor only for their own ends. While Buddhas work solely for the welfare of others. With the mind, 1:20:12.7 (?) between the failings of one and the advantages of the other, we seek your blessings, to enable us to equalize and exchange ourselves for others.

GR: Ok. So, we’re seeking blessings maybe doctrine. Don’t seek blessings. Just do it. (DT) So, I guess that’s it. I run out of. Nothing more to talk about, internal growth. (laughs) (DT)

1:21:03.3 Unless you have questions. I mean, this is the way, how you do to develop that. You know, really, love and compassion. And also, I would like to share one thing with you. People seeking. Lot of people. I don’t know, not so much in Holland. But lot of people seek protection. They want. I want protection. I want protection. And people wearing lot of protection threads and cords. I mean, that. You have one. Yeah. In America as well as on their arms and all sorts of things. (DT) But the best protection is the love. (DT) Believe it or not. (DT) When Buddha was trying to become Buddha, while meditating the last step. So, the evil forces have a sort of used maximum power to stop him. (DT) First to try to use affection. (DT) The second they tried to use wrath. Wrath-ness. (DT) Last time. When I came to Holland last time, I remember it was the period when people are watching the Little Buddha movie. (DT) Even saw the Little Buddha advertisement hanging in Jewel Heart near the door there. (DT) And if you look in the Little Buddha movie, you see the Buddha’s function in India. And the tree Buddha tried to sit down and meditate and all of a suddenly all these things happening. The bardo came in and started functioning there. (DT) So, whatever, they’re throwing at the Buddha. The weapons and the, you know, the arrows and spears and everything. Within certain environment, it becomes a flower. 1:24:02.2 Remember? (DT) And where does that come from? (DT) It is result of meditation on love. (DT) Even the thread cords that you have here, what here. It’s done in the name of Buddha of love (DT) So, because the love is the most important protection we can get (DT) I tell you. I tell you. I’ll share with you a story. (DT) There was a Tibetan teacher. Not teacher, but meditator, in the place called Pembo, which is about a mountain cross from Lhasa today, to the north. (DT) And in old Tibet, there are a lot of ghosts there. (DT) That’s true. That’s true. Because I have seen many. (DT)

Audience: How did it look like?

GR: Huh?

Audience: How did it look like?

GR: Oh, I didn’t see that way. What happens is. There are really a lot of ghosts in Tibet. Specially when I was young, I had a little cave. Have you been to Tibet? No? I have a little cave.

Translator: Cape?

GR: Cave

Translator: What you put on. Oh, cave. (Dutch)

GR: You think that cape?

Translator: Yes

GR: 1:26:18.0 To have it (?).

Translator: Sorry. Cave. Cave

GR: And that is in the half side of the. In the halfway through a little mountain. (DT) It is rocky. Very rocky area. (DT) And when you look in the valley down there. Down that valley. There’s a big. One single big tree. (DT)

GR: And this side, when I’m looking, you know. On this side of the tree, there’s a little village. (DT)

1:27:02.5 I get my yogurt from that village.(DT) I’m sure milk must be coming from there, because I don’t worry about the milk. I’m really worried about the yogurt. Milk is used in the kitchens. I get a drink. Right?

Translator: Yes

GR: But the yogurts, you get yourself. So. So, I know the yogurt comes from there. (DT) So. So, in the evenings. In the evenings, near the tree. Near that big tree. You’ll see little fire. It’s not like those, you know the firecrackers. No, no. Just little; look like a little candle type of thing. Little fire. (DT) And. And you seem them. Then, you know, they’ll come from all over the place. (DT) And then they sit. Then they sit in the circle. All the fires sitting in the circle. (DT) So, then these other peoples tells me, “Oh, look at these ghosts having a meeting.” (DT) So, whether ghosts are having a meeting or not, they’ll really sit in perfect big circle. Sometimes there’s fifty, hundred of them. Like this big circle. But then it becomes big circle. Because they’ll sit in perfect circle. (DT) Then at the night, I do. During the tsoh period, I make the feast offerings. (DT) And then after the feast offering, there’s the leftover offerings. (DT) And when you throw them, you’re throwing the leftover offerings. (DT) And that period, they will all come. (DT) And at the beginning, I was a little scared. (DT) But you know what? They really come and you know it. You, you know it. You’ll hear it. They will like walk, squisha squisha squisha squisha squisha. They go in that. Squa, Squisha squisha squisha. They go. (DT) They make noise. So, I used to be scared a little bit. And afterwards, I’m not so scared. I’m looking forward for them. Squisha, squisha, sqhisha. (laughs) (DT) So. So. So, sometimes you say the fire burning here. And there’s a little fire burning there. Here. Little fire here. (DT)