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Soundfile 20000113GRNYGLG

Speaker Gelek Rimpoche

Location New York

Topic Ganden Lha Gyema

Transcriber Jill Neuwirth

Date 12/19/2021

I’d like to wish everybody a happy new year, new millennium, whatever. And also welcome the newcomer, youngest of all. Really nice and sweet. How old is it? Audience: Five weeks. Rimpoche: Five weeks, wow. Great. Congratulations. So I’d like to continue where we stopped last time. So does anybody have the Ganden Lha Gyema with you? I think we’re stopped- where did we stop? (Speaks with audience) [0:00:57.4] So basically, what we’ve been doing here is we’re actually going through the Guru Yoga in the form of Seven Limbed prayer, which is not the shortest we say, but also sort of little medium verse each. So we have done the rejoice part already and next probably is making request for guidance. Is that right? Audience: (Inaudible) [0:01:49.9] Rimpoche: Okay can you read it? Audience: You the great masters (Reads verse) As suitable on the ground of your disciples. Rimpoche: Okay, I believe that’s the verse that means really actually what you ask, what you’re doing, maybe I should collect little bit back. You created a- (Phone rings) I’m sorry. Audience: (Inaudible, laughter) [0:02:41.9] Rimpoche: Sounds like Kathy. Is it Kathy? Not bad news I hope. (Speaks with audience about phone call) [0:03:21.8]

[0:03:38.1] Okay, anyway. So supreme field of merit. Let me go back this way. When we talk about the spiritual path, what we talking about it? Basically, we’re talking about individual practice, making individual better person. And making it right. That is two ways of doing it. One, by yourself, by your own efforts, to understand ourself better, to understand our relationship to the to every existence is better, to understand our life better, to understand what is it? What’s going on? What is it? That is better, all of those. That’s definitely most important part of it. When you look at it, when you look at every existence and what is it? What is it that existing? And how did I came in? And what does that got to do with me, hey, here you are. (Speaks to audience about phone call) [0:04:54.7] So the relationship between the individual and every existence. And that means whoever comes in your life, and whatever your life touches wherever it is. I think that is very important point without which spiritual development cannot come.

[0:05:43.7] It’s not that so much who you are and what you are. Doesn’t matter to me. Who am I? I am me. I am I am, whatever I am. So what? You know? No big deal. If you, especially if you believe in the reincarnation, you’re so and so and at that certain time, you’re so and so at certain time you are so and so at certain time. So that goes on changing. That’s no big deal. So that’s why it’s not so important for me who am I and what you are. At least I know at this moment I am human being. We all know. In another time we may be somebody else. Maybe a dog, cat, cow or buffalo, who knows? So it doesn’t matter. But what does matter is the relationship between our self and things that we comes in. And how do I plug in in this existence and how do I plug off. It’s a very important point. I think that is to understand that and then how do I make it? What makes me to come up and to develop, what does that make me? Understanding of that. Without understanding, how do I plug in, how do I plug off. Without that, I don’t think we make it very much. It’s very important. And I think that is the wisdom part of it, which is necessary. Without which, no matter how much efforts we put, love, compassion, and all of those, alone doesn’t make it.

[0:08:07.9] So the most important teaching of this particular verse, whatever we’re doing is we’re asking the supreme field of merit, that means everybody, every one of us will produce our own supreme field of merit that our own creation, however it is connected with those enlightened beings, you cannot just created some strange idea and call it a supreme field of merit and try to accumulate merit by doing that, it doesn’t work. So it has to be something which already enlightened or whatever it may be. Something you can create one and make sure it is connected with those who are enlightened. So normal, this is not Buddhist way, but normal, normal Christian way, I don’t know, normal American way of talking, you sort of saying you create your own god’s representative for yourself and make dealings with that. And otherwise, but also that your own representative, your own created god representative must have good dealings with God. If you just make it any Tom, Dick, and Harry and say, hey you are gods representative for me, it won’t work. So I think that’s the why the supreme field of merit is important. However, what I’m talking is earlier, minutes before, I’m talking about actual spiritual upliftment is your own understanding. Your own understanding, and your own relationship with every existence. I think that’s the most important point. Even you read on the Buddha’s teachings, tremendous amount of Buddhist teachings, and everywhere wherever you read and ultimately it will boil down to the wisdom part of it.

[0:10:25.0] Ultimately, it is the wisdom, not the love compassion. Love compassion is absolutely necessary however, it does not cut the root of negative emotions. So therefore, it’s not the direct opponent of cutting a root of negative emotions at all. So it is totally the wisdom. What is wisdom? Buddhists call it emptiness. What is emptiness, if you call it- it’s a very strange. When you try to- the word emptiness is so funny. And so if you try to- I saw a movie it’s called, what do you call it? Ever- Neverending (Story). That’s right. It’s a children’s story, it’s called Neverending (Story) and that there’s empty- I’m sure many of you have seen it. I saw it very recently and that’s emptiness is totally dismantling everything, that little guy’s about to fly and disappear, been holding a little tree and try to hold it the dragon will come and pick up, right? So that sort of give you idea of emptiness which I really don’t think it is emptiness at all. So that’s not emptiness at all. So that is very important point to be remembered. So then the question comes, what is really an emptiness? I believe that, I’m really sorry, I believe that Einstein knows emptiness. The theory of relativity is totally, that’s what emptiness is all about it. Emptiness is not empty, it is a relativity. Relative dependentness. Dependent arise. Interdependent nature. And if you begin to know that, that is how I know how I’m plugged in in life. How I’m plugged out. What is relevant of this total life to me. And whatever’s happening within the my life, whatever it is, you know, that is exactly what it is.

[0:12:53.5] And without knowing that, without getting that we get nowhere. That is the wisdom part of it. And in order to understand this, I’m very surprised to know, but I’m not going to shock but either you have to be great scientist like an Einstein or Stephen Hawkings or something of that type, that level, and then you begin to understand. Or, or you can understand through a meditative state. Meditative state is, if you just keep on sitting there thinking everything empty, everything is emptiness, there is nothing truly existing, everything’s empty, empty, empty, empty, whatever comes in your front, start throwing that away and just make it everything void, it’s not going to be emptiness at all. That’s not going to be emptiness. There are a lot of people who tell you that’s emptiness, but they’re wrong. They’re wrong. It’s not. You know what that will give you result? I can tell you that directly, I’ve been reading the whole day today this portion of it. Whole afternoon, I should say. Reading all this. And if you keep on sitting and thinking there is nothing, nothing, nothing, everything’s empty. And then everything, whatever pops up in your front and try to remove them and thinking it is void. Great. And great many great many Buddhist teachers did. Great many Tibetan Buddhist teachers did, including Tsongkhapa, the founder of the Gelugpa sect, they did that. And then at end Tsongkhapa comes out clearly said, I was- how wrong I was. And so what happens is if you do this the result of that is you’re going to take rebirth in formless. You know there’s desire realm, form realm, and formless. Formless has three or four different levels. It’s called like space-like formless. Nothingness formless. Nam (Quotes in Tibetan) [0:15:15.7] A mind-like formless. And ultimate top level of realms or something, four of them. So all of those you take rebirth just by sitting that way.

[0:15:27.5] So we really have to understand that mind, the wisdom, the mind which understand the emptiness has to be the understanding mind, it’s lucid mind, it understand your nature, it’s understand your nature, it understand the reality, it understand the relationship between me the individual and the world that I’m existing, and it understand the relationship that me and other human beings and other beings around understand. And that is the true emptiness. How, so how did we connect? That’s why the essence of emptiness is dependent nature. So when you are asking teaching, because this verse ask your teaching. Asking teaching, you’re asking two types of teachings here. That is one, that is this teaching, teaching of true wisdom, and the other is the accumulating merit and all this usual cemented things you know. Everything is very cemented thing, that if you don’t have the cement, all this, if you have just those bricks of emptiness they don’t sit together. You have to be cement them together. So all other things are merit and so and forth, and all of those are as the sort of cemented. Right? Didn’t you say cemented? Putting things together. Doesn’t shake, you know. Building it up, holding together. That’s part of it. And if you really understand that you don’t need merit. That is, that’s great, you know? So the true teaching is the wisdom teaching. So that’s what you are asking. You’re asking to your supreme field of merit. So this you need occasionally. Time, every different level you need that. So when you’re asking the teaching, and that’s what really is. I don’t know how many of you heard me but I said it. I said it because I have to say it. I have to say it because this weekend this initiation’s coming in Ann Arbor. I’m sorry- New York. So I have done that Ann Arbor portion so I have done, so I don’t know how much time I’m going to have to explain at that time. So when you’re talking about the vajrayana, without the normal Buddhist thing, without which the vajrayana doesn’t exist. Because the fundamental foundation of the vajrayana is a normal Buddhism. And what is normal Buddhism? I mean this is relevant to today’s verse. When you’re asking teachings, what is normal Buddhism you’re asking? Probably you’re asking three different categories of Buddhist teaching. Three different categories.

[0:19:28.7] Three different categories, it’s not dharma what you teach, it doesn’t make three different level. Sometimes does, but more or less it’s not. It is the person individual who’s receiving, they receive three different level. One, the number one, first and foremost, is our level. The our level, our, what is the- you know, this is interesting. This is interesting. When you’re looking at the spiritual, when you talk about it, when you talk about I want development, I want a spiritual development, you have to have three basic things. Three basic things is the fundamental foundation on which you’re working. And what kind of method are you applying. What kind of result are you hope to getting it? So three things: Base, path, and the result. Did you all hear this? Okay. Base on which you’re going to work. Right? If you don’t have a base, if you don’t have a camp- or what do you call this? Audience: Canvas. Rimpoche: Canvas. If you don’t have canvas or space, I think you cannot paint, can you? You have to have something to paint on. (Laughs) You have to have something base on which you paint on, even wall or whatever, you know? You need something to paint on, that’s the base. Then you need a paint to make different color, or whatever. Even single color, doesn’t matter, but you do need paint. And that’s method. And then after you apply the paint on the bases, then you get your result. However, whatever it looks like, good or bad, whatever it is, you get the result. Right? You do need that. Even for painting. If I’m wrong you tell me. (Laughs) And that’s what it is.

[0:21:59.5] So likewise in the spiritual path, when you work on spiritual path, you need base. And you need paint. And you hope to get result. So when you’re hoping to get result, when you’re working, then you have something to discard and something to put on. That’s what you’re doing it. Right? Something to discard, something you bring in. So the basic fundamental level what we are, our level what we want to discard is negative emotions. And its cause. So method what we apply on, again three different level. If you don’t know anything else, discipline. You just discipline it. Be very reject. And that is the number one, I mean, sort of, first, not saying that’s best, but if you sort of, you have three, you call this one first. That’s your first choice here. That level. The lowest level of the choice is a discipline. If you can’t do anything else, just discipline it. Then the second level, is a little bit a mixture. Mixture of discipline and love compassion, and all this. Mix them together. Nam (Quotes in Tibetan) [0:24:03.0] So then the upper one is, actually you try to get rid of those thing, method what you try to get rid of it, it’s just like worms eating tree. When the worms eat tree the worms get inside the tree and eat out and then tree dies. Am I right or wrong? It is. Those of you who have been growing trees, you know that. So that’s what it is. So what happened is, it’s not so much emphasized on the discipline or anything, but even you have this, all this emotions such as attachment or hatred or anger, but you can use within yourself and get rid of it from inside. So these are the three different levels we are talking about.

[0:25:03.1] And all of them need wisdom. The all of them need wisdom. All of them has to understand emptiness. All of them. Whether the third class, second class, or first class, whatever it may be, you need all the wisdom, without which cannot. So when we’re saying you need wisdom and then you have discipline, you have love compassion, and you have transformation you are talking about, you’re talking two things together. Wisdom is you cannot do without. Everywhere. Every level it’s goes, then the other are what we normally categorize as method but what you explained. So when you’re asking teaching, you’re asking that, when you’re looking at your spiritual path, that’s what you should be looking. And your object what you had wanted to discard is your negative emotions and its imprint and its root. You need to get rid of your negative emotions with completely it doesn’t grow again. You can reduce very much, but then it comes back. Reduce and comes back, that you keep on doing all the time. So when you’re applying love compassion and saying mantras, and doing this and doing that, and even meditation, concentrated meditation sitting it will go so much down but when it’s comes back it comes back big way. You can’t handle it. It’s like you have taken unnecessary antibiotics all the time and then that- what is antibiotics again for? Virus? Bacteria. They come very powerful strong with the very immune system and you can’t handle it. Just like that happens.

[0:27:10.1] So, that’s it. That’s what I understand spiritual path. It’s not so much how do you pray, what do you say? How do you chant, how do you meditate? How long you meditate? How many mantras you say, it’s not. Actually, you know, what you really have to understand is how is it that we’re empty? How is it that is peace? How is it, what makes, and how did I connect? I believe that’s what it is. So the basically, if you really get into a search, how is it that I connect? How is it that I exist? If you keep on searching and not only how is it that I connected, but that you can find it, but who is it that been connected? And if you keep on searching it, I don’t think you find it. You find it, you don’t have it. You really you don’t have it. No matter how much part and parcels that you go, and who is that individual been connecting, you go and search, is it the body, is it the mind, take all the parcels and parts, every inch of your body and take apart, it won’t be there. Every- what is it, little things? Audience: Molecules. Rimpoche: Molecule take apart you’re not going to find it. No matter how much you go, you will have you can divide. There will be no end to it. So when you do not find that, then- but we know we’re there, and how do we really being here, then the understanding of how we’re being there will change. That solidness of we being there is shaking. That’s the body part of it. Then you have the other part, is mind part. Same way. Absolutely same way you can divide.

[0:30:13.9] You can go and search or divide. And go beyond that, it goes some kind of vibration and all kind of the energy vibration, even that level where I disagree with Stephen Hawkings. Stephen Hawking says no matter how small the Russian dolls may be, at the end you will find a Russian doll can be finded. That’s what he said in White House, I saw on TV. You know the thought came out of my head, oh, you’re going to have a very wild goose chase in order to find that this is he end of it. It’s not, it’s not going to find it. Take it from me. Not going to find it. They will keep on dividing, no matter how many years it will take, but will keep on dividing it. So the way and how we came up is the dependent nature, interdependent system. And that make us possible to be rather than we’re looking at something solid, this is it. When we say, what do you call this one? Audience: A microphone. Rimpoche: No this little square. Audience: Transformers. Rimpoche: Okay, it’s called transformer. When you look at it, and I know it’s a transformer, I’m happy and satisfied, I leave it and I say this is transformer, I have no problem. When I’m begin to look at it, which part is the transformer, is this one? No, it is clip. Is this the one? No. Can I take it apart, how many machines in there I started taking it, and then I lose the transformer. So collectively exist, transformer. And that dependently arise. If one part is missing, especially the battery here is missing, then it won’t work. If this clip is missing, it’s not so bad. It will still work.

[0:32:41.0] I believe that’s what it is. So when it’s collectively functioning, it’s there, it’s functioning, you can satisfy it. It can serve all the purposes. It act as basis for you to uplift, downgrade, whatever you want to do, it provides. But if you started searching and then you don’t have it. A Buddha has given the idea and suggestion, saying that no matter how tiny, smallest, you may go, you will always be division. Always be division. Saying that east part of that tiny little thing will never touch the west, never meet, even at the vibration level. It never meets. That’s the reason why. That’s the fundamental basis of rising dependent arise. So everything is condition. Everything’s condition. Condition is connected with your karma. That’s how I’m here. I plug myself in, each and every one of you people bring your own universe with you and plug, you sit plug in here, I plug my universe, you plug your universe, that’s how we exist. That makes me true atheist. Really true. That makes me true atheist. Unfortunately, I doesn’t become scientist, but that’s what it is. So that’s what emptiness is all about it. So by not understanding this, we get into difficulties. We’re always searching goose chasing, wild goose chasing we do. We’re chasing the point. Anyway, so that’s that part of it without which the fundamental Buddhist teachings not completed. You need that. That is the wisdom they apply.

[0:36:00.5] That is the wisdom that cuts the ignorance. That’s what it is. That’s the emptiness we’re talking about it. It’s very easy. Very simple. Might not be that simple, might not be that easy, but we can get better understanding in that way. Such emptiness, such a level of that detail and that profound can we perceive and can we perceive? And that is biggest question. Buddha kept on saying, yes you can, but in our, in the level where we are, even you’re great meditator, no matter how great you can sit, even you can sit six aeons without shaking or whatever. Six aeons, not years, lifes, aeons without shaking. Even then, such a profound perceiving points cannot last more than one hundred portions of one second. Cannot. Just mind cannot focus and cannot perceive. That’s can you get to that level by training a meditation? No, it doesn’t. So makes you to be able to perceive this, and what makes you able to perceive this is you need internal bliss. Internal joy, without which you cannot focus. So when you have the internal bliss within that internal bliss it gives a mind a capacity to be able to focus. This internal bliss are developed by certain techniques such as pointing on your body part, internally through the vajrayana. It’s developed that bliss. That’s called the bliss void combination. Without that building that bliss, no matter how great you might be, you cannot focus, very little. That’s why the vajrayana is so important, why it’s fantastic. And why it’s dangerous, too. Because if you go wrong on that you can really go wrong. So that’s that.

[0:40:19.6] That lucid mind perceiving that emptiness is the direct method and then no matter how long you can apply it’s a depends on the bliss within the body. It’s not the sexual thing. I mean, can be, but it’s not. It’s not the sex thing. It can be sexual, but not the sex. So it can be, it is special bliss within that. And that combined with that understanding is the ultimate meaning of mantra. It is the ultimate meaning of vajrayana. It is the ultimate meaning of tantra. I’m talking from the only meaning point of view. So when you’re asking teaching here, if it’s vajrayana, that’s what you’re looking for. I say that because I may not have time to say on Saturday. Those of you who are coming there. If especially if you’re first time. Or even your second, third time you won’t figure out anyway, so. (Laughs) Normally, so that’s what it is, so. That’s why it says vast and profound teaching or something? So that’s what it is. The next is requesting to remain forever, right? Next verse should be. Audience: I dedicate whatever virtues? Rimpoche: Oh! Oh that’s right, this is Ganden Lha Gyema, that’s right. It’s going up there already. So next is dedication. That’s very easy now. Let’s do the dedication today.

[0:42:33.0] Dedication is important. Important, you know what? It is the actually dedication is safety measure. Safety measure. So it makes you safe. What happened is we put a lot of efforts we put a lot of things, we do lot of things, and if we don’t safeguard- it’s just like in computer you keep on working, working, working and if you don’t save it then somehow the electrical surge or computer crash or something, so everything goes away. Just like that, we put a lot of our efforts to create merit or purification. Where purification serve the purpose at that moment, so create merit, accumulate merit, they call it right? It’s strange language. Anyway, so the accumulation of merit, we keep on doing it, doing it, doing it. And if you don’t save it, it just like computer crash, you get anger, hatred, the hatred will swallow them up, eat them up. That’s what it is. Kha je (Quotes in Tibetan) [0:43:49.3] Buddha even says, there’s no heavier negativity than that of hatred. Because it will destroy everything good you did. Indirectly, if you create a killing or something, it is terrible. You can’t do worse. But for long run, if you kill, you kill, you get a killing karma you keep on building that up, but what’s more harmful, hatred. Hatred will destroy all your positive karma. Why? Because karma is definite. That is simple reason. I mean very interesting. Karma is definite. So if you dedicated for something, until that materializes this karma cannot go anywhere. Good or bad both. That’s why you have bad karma materializing. Because some people do create a tremendous amount of karma and they dedicate it for bad things. And bad things. And until that result has given that karma will continue. Otherwise, where does the Hitler come from? Otherwise, why does Mao come from? And just because positive karma creation dedicated for negative usage. And that’s what happens. Otherwise, there won’t be Hitler. There won’t be Mao. That’s what it is.

[0:45:50.3] I’m sorry, I’m just telling you that without reason, which I normally don’t do. It is against my principle. I always try to give you logical reason and how it work, but here I don’t have logical reason to give you, that Hitler had accumulated a lot of good merit and using for bad purposes. But by looking at it I can understand in that way, And I don’t have any other way to fit that in. So does the Mao. Maybe Saddam Hussein. Maybe not. Who knows. I don’t know who you have to fir there, Saddam Hussein or somebody else. Whoever it is, anyway. I’d rather not name it. (Laughs) Anyway, so that’s what it is. Dedication. So it’s recommend- that’s why Buddha advises everybody, if you do something good, save it. Save it. Save it for whatever you want to. It’s yours. You have every right. Buddhas and bodhisattvas can suggest. They cannot tell you what to do. They can simply tell you what they do. And they dedicate for benefit of all beings. That’s their commitment. Benefit to everybody. Every, each and every individual, to each and every individual living beings to be able to become a perfect enlightened beings. Free of all sufferings. So that’s what they dedicate, they suggest you to dedicate for that. That’s a suggestion. You can dedicate anything you want to. Doesn’t matter. If you want to dedicate to grow two horns on your head, you can do that. It’s yours, you can use whatever you want to do. Really. That’s what it is. You want to dedicate to get somebody better, go ahead. You can dedicate to make more money, go ahead.

[0:48:21.3] Whatever you want to do, it’s yours. And that’s dedication is that. Dedication makes sure it works. It will not wasted in between. That’s what it is. Interesting thing, when you look at Buddhism and Buddha’s teaching and the Tibetan, particularly this. And they give you tremendous amount of techniques. And like this dedication is one. Doesn’t matter whatever you dedicate, I told you. You can dedicate to grow horn on your head. Or whatever you know. So you can dedicate that. That’s yours. But the technique what you use. Probably it will work. You know what will be a yak. (Laughs) I didn’t mean yak, the Tibetan yak, that animal you know. With two horns. For a short period. Whatever, you know. It is a good high land, good air, clean water, green grass. Good environment. So that is the dedication. So seven- I think we completed seven. These seven are very important. Anybody whoever want life to have a little practice, you can do this. These are the- you know actually it says, ke pa (Quotes in Tibetan) [0:50:13.2] The enlightened beings had for aeons they thought about it how what best way easy way to uplift spiritual development within individual, what best way we can do? So they draw this conclusion seven of them. Not all seven, some are you know, little bit added up like requesting for teaching is important because you do need the information. If you don’t have information, teaching is really give you information. And if you don’t have the information, you don’t know what to do. Truly speaking you don’t know what to do. And that’s why it is learning, analyzing, meditating, it’s becomes important. If you don’t learn, what do you do? Nothing, just sit. And you keep on thinking, if you keep on sitting you become a Buddha, you’re wrong you’re never going to become a Buddha, just by sitting, for sure. You will reduce your negative emotions. Simultaneously, sometimes you reduce your intelligence too, both. You really do. Really do. So you become very calm, very quiet, very lazy person. You could. This is another technique. So the true meditation to become to the level of enlightenment it has to be active meditation. Active. So what- how you have to become active yourself is you have to learn. And after learning that, then you can analyze.

[0:52:14.7] You can draw conclusion. And then you can focus meditate. You need both. Analyzing and focusing. If you don’t analyze, you don’t have thing that on what you meditate. And if you have the things on which you meditate, and if you don’t meditate it doesn’t become part of you. When it doesn’t become part of you, it doesn’t affect you. It will be like going through a museum. Oh that’s there, that’s there,, that’s there, that’s there. So that doesn’t help you. So it has to be to be learning, analyzing, and meditating, all of those three things has to go. That’s how you work on base path and the result which I mentioned earlier. And that’s how it makes the individual better. Because if you’re missing anything, it won’t work. If you don’t- if you missed the base you have no place to put paints on. If you don’t have the method, you don’t have paints. You won’t get result. Then you have skill, right? If you have good skill, your painting’s great. And if you don’t have good skill, your painting might not be that great. That’s the result, you know that. So this is just same thing on spiritual path. These are the skills, the seven limb. Did I say too much? Maybe I should quit. Saying too much will not help you.

[0:54:46.6] Okay, some people ask me, what do I have to prepare for initiation? Nothing. Be yourself. A basically, all this been talking about the Foundation of Perfection, Odyssey to Freedom, Lo Jong, all of them are preparation. That’s your preparation. That’s what it is. I have not much to say tonight. I think we’re done the Ganden Lha Gyema, right? There nothing more except mik me tse wai ter chen chen re zik, right? Is there anything more there? Audience: One more verse. Rimpoche: What does verse say? Audience: Oh glorious- Rimpoche: Oh yeah, you can have that. Okay, doesn’t have that. Doesn’t matter. It’s a little inconvenient sometimes, it’s there, they bring it over here, turn other way around and all that. Doesn’t really matter. I sort of skipped. Maybe it’s old version you have. Then after that what you have? Audience: (Inaudible) [0:56:22.8] Rimpoche: Okay. So that bringing the supreme field of merit on your, over your head and all that, if you want to you can do, if you don’t want to you don’t have to do it. Then you have to face same way as you do and turn it around and if it’s so heavy it will be difficult to hold up. (Laughs) Especially in the supreme field of merit is, it has 200 kilo pounds or something, it will be very difficult to get it. Anyway it is joking, so. I guess that’s it. And like to say thank you and those of you who are coming on Saturday and Sunday, I hope to start at three o’clock- (Speaks to audience about time of initiations) [0:57:29.7] Thank you.