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Sound file : NLOTF (07)

Speaker: Gelek Rimpoche

Location: Netherlands

Topic: Odyssey To Freedom

Transcriber: Jayapushpa

Date: 7th November, 2021

..maybe, but not all the yuppies are like that. But we called them ‘yuppies’. But all of you are here and whoever there’s going to read this, or whoever is going to listen to this, and you all know, that’s not the only thing. There is something more than that. Something you may called it ‘spiritual’, something you may called it ‘buddhism’, something you may called it ‘betterment of myself’, somebody may called this ‘bring closer to God’, somebody may called it…whatever you may called it. There are people who are totally convinced and all of us. There is something more than material thing in this world, all for me. So when you accept there is something more than that for me, and then the question comes, ‘for me, when, how long, where’. Then questions come. There will again divisions will come. No doubt about it because that’s how human mind, how human beings function. Those divisions will come. Among those divisions, somebody will look in future, somebody will look future lives, and few will only look this life. That’s also going to be how it is. So, this Odyssey to freedom, lam rim or whatever you may called it, serve all sections of people. They can’t serve those who think material is only the answer. But they serve to all the people who thinks life only this or who thinks there is reincarnation, or who thinks there is lives thereafter. How? Because you are responsible for yourself. What you do today makes difference for you tomorrow. And most of us don’t bother, don’t worry, oh, don’t doubt about that, I am sorry. Don’t doubt about that. So, this…you know what the buddhas sharing of experience, what really tells us, it is more how do we live, how do we think, and how it is going to affect me. Rather than more doctrinal, you know. It is not dogma. It is more really how it is, particularly lam rim case, it becomes more…of course there is a lot dogma comes in between, but it is more really pure thing. I called this ‘dharma without dogma’.And that is the aim of Jewel Heart. And we do hope to do that, whether we are in the other side of the ocean or this side of the ocean. Wherever we are, we do hope we do that because that is the requirement of today, that is the need of today and that really serve the people. So, this Tsongkhapa’s word here, ‘Lacking the determination to be free, you remain stupefied by samsara’s delights’ It is very interesting. So, you know, samsara’s delight is such a thing, such an irritating thing for us. That makes us to do lots of things. All our monkey tricks, all our wasting time, they all make us to do these because of the samsara’s delights. We do that all the time in between two persons, between myself and myself, between me and the society. I mean between societies among themselves. You put a total chunk of our time, almost total time just to satisfy samsara’s delights, to bring samsara’s delights. We do that all the time. Even then it is fine. But it is important if you want , if you enjoy these delights, You have these delights in nice way, long way and if possible life after life without ups and downs. 0:08:17.1

Okay, I may like to read this. So, therefore first you have to have the desire to make yourself happy. Ask yourself, ‘Do you want to make yourself happy? ‘And who knows what answer you are going to get. You get answer within yourself. You don’t have to say it here. But you get answer within yourself and that’s how you begin to develop within yourself, with yourself, you know. I am not try to make you schizophrenia personality, try to talk ? with yourself, but still within yourself, ask the question, ‘Do I want to be happy? ‘ or, ‘I just want to suffer’. Some people would say, ‘I would like to suffer’. You know why? Because people like change, people don’t like change, people like change. They think different suffering is pleasure. There are lots of reasons why but ask yourself. Make sure you will answer yourself. Honestly your deep desire you would like to be happy. Even those who said ‘I like suffering’ because you like to enjoy. That’s why you say,’I like suffering’. I am sorry it is a little too long ..Okay? Good. I had to do it long because or else I lose the stream. (Translator: Yes, of course). So, when you want make happiness, a big question for you, ‘When can I make this?’ And answer for yourself, what better opportunity than today. You look at your own capacity. You know yesterday I told you this little basketball is not just a simple one it can’t just kick. This basketball has engine of its own and it is capable. Capable of doing anything. Capable of bringing joy, pleasure. Capable of bringing torture, killing, all of those. Such a capability you have never heard before, and it is almost impossible to encounter future too. So, with this capability of our mind, our bod. When the mind connects with this particular mechanical body….not mechanical but a particular engine which is capable of doing all these, and if we don’t do it now, when can you do it? 0:13:53.1

It urge you to do two things. To look in this life , your own life and appreciate and rejoice. And you have to recognize. Because when you don’t recognize, you don’t know what you have it. And when you lose it, then you will be sorry. Then it is too late. Funny example, the old traditions give you funny example. A very poor greedy person found a bag full of gold dust. And that guy is very happy and doesn’t want to share with anybody. He carry by himself but what he did not know there was a hole in the bag. And then he walks, the dust started dropping. And of course, he realized it is getting a little lighter. But he thinks he is becoming more stronger (Laughs) By the time when he settles down, the bag is empty. So, then it is too late. Alright? Just like this ‘Days of our life’ in this soap opera, ‘Days of our life’. It goes that way. 0:16:48.2

So, we are continuing with ‘Foundation of Perfections’ as well, in this level. And it should be reaching to ..yesterday..Or, did I speak or what did we said yesterday? We did, doesn’t matter. Well time limit doesn’t allow you to do that. So, you do have to meditate, okay. If you don’t repeat, then you have to do one more time too. So, not only last night and this morning, maybe twice, maybe this evening as well what we said yesterday. You know this greedy guy for him to find a bagful of gold, is it easy? No, just not easy. It is by the chance, the story, by chance he had found it. By chance he found. Is going to find all the time? No way! You know it, we all know it. It is not possible. Otherwise we all could have found bagful of gold. And if you find bagful of gold, each and every one of us, gold will have no value. It will be like equal to sand, you know. That’s what will be. So, it is not going to be. So as our life. It is not going to be easily finding. So, in the yon tan zhir gyur ma, it says, ‘len chik nye pay del way ten zang di’. ‘’len chik nye pay’ found once. Just look, even you think about it. If you just accept, they will life doesn’t end at the time of death. Then what happens, the possibilities will be just like floating in the space like anything else. Floating around and how is it possible out of zillions of things, you going to meet someone, get connected with something, is almost impossible. Even in normal thing, if you think , even you think , it is most difficult. But you can. If you throw yourself in the middle of Amsterdam, and move around and hoping you will meet someone that you know. The chances are not likely. But it is not impossible. Yes, you do meet. Just like that we have found this life and that’s why Tsongkhapa said, ‘found but once’. 0:21:33.4

And what did you find? Len chik nye pay del way ten zang di, ..its the beautiful life. I don’t know what the translation says. (Translator: (reads) Precious human life gained but once has great potential but is easily lost) Ya, ‘great potential’. It is a wonderful life with a tremendous potential we have found. So, there are some danglings now. You have to remember those danglings. And in this Odyssey to Freedom, also , I don’t know, 17 or something? Is it? Somebody give me the English one. (Translator: Ya, 17). Ya, ‘Embrace human life’, ‘Understand its value’, ‘Appreciate rarity’. Len chik nye pay del way ten zang, when youn are saying that potential life, it gives you the outline, ‘recognition of human life’, teng zang gyu chu wa*?) That is traditionally they give you 18 quality life, and the bottomline is the opportunity, capability. Len chik nye pay del way ten zang di,,/ shin tu nye ka…The word we have, / shin tu nye ka… ‘difficult to find.’ There are outlines why and all that.,sort of thing, all dangled there. ‘Shin tu nye ka. ‘don chen she gyur ne’ means importantness of it. The ‘importantness’ again in the outline, there are so many. But again, this is a life we can make then difference throughout our spiritual journey. Or, our wandering life, lives. I did give you example. We just give you example, we just throw ourself in Amsterdam hoping to meet someone is almost next to impossible. But if you talked to your friend, made a date, and both of you go to Amsterdam, you going to meet straightaway without any difficulties, right? So, we can do that. We can do that in the sea of human, not only human but lives floating, we can make point and meet. And that is this life can do and do not underestimate your own capability. Please remember, you are important. You are capable, you can do. And also no one else can do it for you except yourself. Thank you. I was told to have a break0:26:36.9

Foundation of the Perfections,’ Len chik nye pay del way ten zang di/ Shin tu nye ka. ‘/don chen she gyur ne / Nyintsen kun tu nying po len pa lo / Gyun cha me par kye war jin gyi lob. So, then just like I said yesterday, in the presence of supreme field, you make a request for blessing. The blessing remember, transforming. Transforming yourself from previous minute of not appreciating life, not recognizing the importantness, not recognizing how difficult to find, it changed into the importantness, valuable, difficult to find, recognizing all these. So then light liquid etc, you may visualize, meditate. Simultaneously if you look in Three Principles of the Path, ‘Wonderful is this life, don’t cheat yourself with the flattering pleasures’. ‘Fleeting, fleeting’, fleeting pleasures ‘ is that right? ‘Fleeting pleasures, deeply contemplate this’. Certainty…. Well, these two lines will catch up here too. In the The Foundation of Perfections, ‘Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin/ Nyur du jik pay chi wa dren pa dang / Shi way je s ulu dang dri ma zhin / Kar nag le dre chi zhing drang wa la. Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin/ Nyur du jik pay …that’s about two lines over there. So now there, idf you look into Odyssey To Freedom, I think it should be …Hartmut , please. (Translator: 17 to 19) Okay. Oh, I think it is 20, ‘Face the inevitability…’ (Translator: 20) and all that, ya. Can you trace this down, ya. Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin, The Foundation of Perfections, we are basing on that..saying our life both the physical body and life itself is like bubble in the water. It is such impermanent. Is there word, ‘transitory’? I think it is such a transitory and such impermanent. So, how can you expect to last so much with out of bubble, you know. If you fool around a lot and bubble will go. And even you don’t touch it bubble will go. So in this level, those studying, those in study groups and all these, and you will learn, meditate….you learn, analyse and meditate on impermanent. And that of gross impermanent and that of death. Teachings like this will not be able to tell you too much. Like what I am doing here, like such a short time cramping everything. But that is something we all will face, sooner or later. We all will die. Hundred years from now if you come back and you look, almost none of us will be here, except maybe young ones maybe, but most of them gone, not survive at all, right? Which is..some kind of conclusion of our melodrama of our life. If you keep on thinking, ‘Am I going to die?’, I don’t think anyone will doubt. They all will say, yes. And whatever we are doing, working now. We are working now to make some difference. Not the death itself, death itself is a phenomena. But the question is, what happens thereafter. Lot of people have fear of death and dying. And of course it is Easter. Many of us hope to be resurrect. (Laugh) But, that’s supposed to be joke but… this is the question of inevit…what is it..(Audience: inevitability) inevitability. We all will face. And if you are….we have to make a difference. You know we have to make a difference that we the spiritual practitioner whose death and some dog in the street. And also that yuppie guy. Otherwise there’s no reason why we should be hippie. (Laughs). So, the definition of good death is important for us. To me the death is a transition because I am from the background of reincarnation. I am not saying because I am reincarnated Lama or Rimpoche. But I am saying that I cannot deny the reincarnation. And honestly speaking, none of you can deny it. You may not accept, but you cannot deny unless you wanted to be cray or just simply say, ‘I wanted to be stubborn and don’t want to think about, I don’t to talk about it’, you know. In that case it is different. But you cannot honestly deny it at all. 0:37:59.7

So dying processes is another thing. You read those in …you read the everywhere. It is mentioned in my book, it is mentioned in the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying’ and ‘Tibetan Book of Death’, all of those, everywhere. Transcripts everywhere you read. Process is one thing, actual death is another thing. But you have to learn the process. You also have to meditate on the process as well. That’s not part of life but it is a path of Vajrayana, they will tell you the sadhanas. The Sadhanas you have that every day. So process you have to learn You know why? It is easier for you to go and saying you know what’s happening. But right now what we can do. Is two things, purifying the negativities, which we talked ‘purification’ yesterday and accumulating the merit such as rejoicing and so on forth. You already have certain things to do now, really for you. Just a simple little piece of this little one, just to give you all of those. And if you want to make a difference to yourself, do it. And this is one of the way too. Okay, anyway if you want to meditate over here the word ‘Lu

sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin,’, body is like bubble in the water. At this level, those of you like the extra danglings, you know this ‘Nine round of meditation on death’ , three resolutions, nine reasons and three roots. So, I will not have time to go here but you have them in all different lam rim that after Tsongkhapa. And I say ‘after Tsongkhapa’ one of this Tsongkhapa’s special way, extraordinary way, one of the qualities of Tsongkhapa’s teachings. This is one of them. 0:42:34.3

‘Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin/ Nyur du jik pay chi wa dren pa dang. Remembering dying is also quite important in our life. It helps us not to submit ourself to laziness. Two types of laziness. The laziness, do nothing laziness, and busy lazy. So you have to overcome that. And remembering death really helps us. It is great inspiration for us to move on. You know this embracing human life and impermanence, they give us lots of inspiration. One, quality of wonderfulness of life what we have. Give us tremendous inspiration if we use it. And if you don’t know how to use it, we keep on complaining there is no inspiration, no inspiration, no inspiration. You got a huge inspiration here. And impermanence and death will give you another inspiration. Happy yet active. It is not that happy silly person but happy active person. Alright then half of this word…‘Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin/ Nyur du jik pay chi wa dren pa dang. / Shi way je s ulu dangdri ma zhin / Kar nag le dre chi zhin drang wa la. So what happens after death, is the most important question. We don’t know. We are now travelling on the unknown road. Unchartered territory, actually. Well, you know after death if you are just going to disappear, no longer exist. If it is really true, I’ll be happy. But many people will be afraid, afraid of annihilation, ‘I am gone, no longer there’, you know. Just gone, disappeared. Fear of annihilation really started pounding on us, right? But for me, that’s not the problem. If it is true I’ll be happy but I know it is not. So then it becomes problem. Then what will happen to me? Where do I go? Will I be human being again? Will I meet my friends again? Will I be the husband again? Will I be the wife again? Will I be the mother again? All these questions we have. And the answer what we know , we will be back but different body, different identity, different character even and all brand new set of friends. Even you come back as it is, even let’s say, even you come back as it is, everything will be different. People you know, some of them gone. Some are old, sick, and lots of new ones. Really that’s reality. That’s the sadness of samsara. It never remains an old man. So you move again in the society. That is what it is if we get here. But the chances are we going to get here? It is quite difficult as we talked about this in importantness of life, how difficult to find. Well, I didn’t talk about it, right? Didn’t talk about it how difficult to find. (Translator: Yes,yes) You know what is the cause of creating such a life….life life, you know what is important wonderful life. What it caused us? You know you got to pay for it, really. And how much it caused for us, and what is the cause? The basic training what we do is perfect morality. *(Rimpoche quotes in tibetan:…..)It also needs the conjunction of pure perfect prayer. And also it needs the help of six paramitas. We may have some of those six paramitas help. And we may have some of those conjuction. Our own morality is known to us, nobody else. It is nobody else business. Nobody else’s judgement but you have you have to judge yourself. 0:51:53.1

So, when you make judgement on yourself, you will see how much perfect morality we have. From that level we will see, we are not only short, but we don’t have it down payment to pay.so, how can we buy a Mercedez? And that itself will tell you how difficult to find this life is. You know if it is real Mercede, you can buy the old ones, secondhand ones, old ones. But you can’t do that here. But you can’t do that here, you always have to buy brand new. The Germans make all the money, anyway. (Laugh) But Americans take it.(Rimpoche chuckles) You know the Mercedez is joined with the Chrysler, so they taking the money. Germans make it, Americans take it. That is just for…what should I say, ‘unnecessary entertainment’.(Laughs) But the reality is the lack…we don’t have the payment to pay. That itself will make it difficult. But good death here to me is they have make that money. So that you can buy Mercedez like body. You know at the time of the death your spirit is running around looking for identity. Really, really, running round like crazy looking for identity. And you have made reservations. Our karma had the reservations but if you can’t pay it, you don’t get it. So, make sure you build the payment.Again the payment what you built is purification and accumulation of merit. As well as everyday spiritual life. So, yes, when we die, we leave, we leave behind our body But we cannot shake off our karma, Unfortunately that’s been attached to our soul. It is almost like ‘I owe you note’ and sealed, stamped on your forehead. So, wherever you are going with your karma when you are travelling and searching for your identity, everybody will know how much money you have because you got on your forehead (Laughs) And sometimes we get some credit too. That is you know the bankers in this case, becomes lamas and yidams. Like you know we say at the end of our sadhana, ‘che tsang pa wo ma so …..ka la …cho’ By the time when you die , the great Heroes dakinis, may receive me with banners and flowers and all that. So that is like getting credit. But even you get credit, if your credit report is not good, nobody gives you credit. (Rimpoche chuckles) All the banks will say, ‘Nice, nice, nice. Thank you, bye bye’. (Laughs) Maybe it is not good idea to compare here with bank. But it is credit. And if you are lucky, it happens. It is interesting, you know, really. 0:58:29.9

This early January and Daisy la, woman who I was married, she passed away in Dehra Dun, in Rajpur, actually. And normally she was very nice person, wonderful person, straightforward, honest, and never cheats anybody and hates people who tells lies. And that way she is very nice person. But she is not somebody who says mantras all the time or meditates. She is not that type of person either at all. Nolah knows her little bit. (Rimpoche asks Nolah) Oh, Nolah doesn’t know, sorry. Alright. And she’s like that. And I was there when she was dying and I came like three weeks before she died. She was telling me, ‘Well, I haven’t done anything wrong , I don’t harm or hurt anybody, and I am not the person who cannot forget somebody who did something bad .’ “I don’t forget immediately, but I don’t take to grudge, didn’t harm anybody, And if there is something called ‘future life’, and pureland or something, and I am sure I will be there. And if it is not there, it is not there’. That’s what her straight forward talk is. So, I was there but couldn’t help her much. Luckily she has no pain, no anything of that sort; it was stomach cancer. But, everyday I have been able to say Lama Chopa very slowly near her. I did not expect her to visualize or think or anything and what I told her, ‘Look, I am going to say the Lama Chopa, and then you just think Buddha on your head.’ She trusts Buddha. ‘Buddha on your head, your forehead and think your consciousness is travelling from your heart to the Buddha’s heart level, and merging and becoming one’ ’You just keep on thinking that only’. She said, ‘Yes’ and the day she died, and by the time she is dying, I did my Lama Chopa already. But the breathe is started changing and one little grandchildren, one little girl came started running , she said, ‘She ‘s changing breathe’ So, I went there and I notices she breathing very fast. Then, I thought, I will say Lama Chopa again. I was standing near her side, but instead of saying Lama Chopa, what I would thought I am saying Lama Chopa, but the word came out of my mouth is ‘Seeing the dakinis’s face’, I mean,just like that it pops out, as though I have no control over what I am going to say. You know, just popped out. And those of you know who has the Vajrayogini practice, you know, at the end of that it says, ‘Her Holiness Vajrayogini, I and all sentient beings, may be taken to your pureland. And when I reached to that level, she breathed last. And then, I still said three times, ‘Her Holiness…’that thing, I said three times. And at the end of the third, just at the end of the third, the moment I finished the word, one big breath came from inside her ‘huh’..her dentures even moved. Really. It was such wonderful to see that way. You know, even you try to make this time up, and even you try to trace back, it won’t work that way. And not only that, and thereafter, she..you know vividly you can see , she is in meditation. The next day the doctor came and …tibetan doctor who gave the death certificate came and look, and he said, ‘such peaceful, how come?’ He doesn’t want even touch it. He started write death certificate. And there is a Ladahki nurse also came and she is Christian, very strong Christian, actually Christian missionary activities. She said, ‘How come such peaceful. They should have lot of pain’. Lot of pain should be there she said, but how come? 1:07:27.1

So, this is one of the examples of good death. That’s what I say, even if you are not practitioner, sometimes…you know Daisyla is a wonderful person. But you can gain all that, it is all possible. But if you are a bad person, you won’t get it. And that’s why His Holiness stressed is much more important to be a good human being. And he called that ‘Universal caring, universal compassion’. And there’s that all those and is really truth of what’s really making difference, to you in the future. Doesn’t matter you are Christian, Judae , or Hindu or Buddhist, or whatever. To be a good person, to be able to help, all these down payment for you future life and maybe some credit. We can all do this. You have the capability, you can do it. Nothing is preventing you to that for you. So, to really practice spiritual practice is just to be a good person. To be able to help you, by yourself at the time when you need to. You know, in life so many things happen. And sometimes we have to do good, and sometimes we have to do not so good ones, because situations will force us. But don’t get disheartened. Negativities can be purified, positivities can be saved. So I think that is major practice we calledit. It is not so much you meditate or not meditate, or sit down or don’t sit down or what time you get up or what time you don’t get up. Doesn’t..I mean it does matter but it doesn’t matter that much. (Rimpoche chuckles) But even you get up early, you know, early means evening in India. (Rimpoche laughs) Early in Europe, means evening in India, midnight somewhere in America. So, it really doesn’t matter. Lu sog yo wa chu yi chu bur zhin/ Nyur du jik pay chi wa dren pa dang. / Shi way je s ulu dangdri ma zhin / Kar nag le dre chi zhin drang wa la. So after death, just like wherever our bodies go, the body smell goes, just…unless you use deodorants, but like that, body and shadow. Just like that our karma functions. And that makes difference, you know. That’s the Foundation of Perfections, right? (Translator: Yes, that’s right). Does it say ‘body shadow or body smell’? (Translator: Body shadow) They say ‘shadow’. Okay. In tibetan it says, ‘odour’. Doesn’t matter anyway. It is the shadow, better than odour anyway. (Laughs) Because a lot of fragrances now, you know. Deodorant, that little thing you put it everywhere, so..(Rimpoche laughs). So, anyway, you have to convince yourself. You have to gain realization on this thing called ‘karma’. We all know it is true. Some of us with reasons, with understanding, with experience we know. Many of us we just knew it, we don’t have reasons. We don’t have explanations. We just knew it. So, who creates this karma? Nobody else, except us. If somebody else creates karma for us, then whole situation will change. Then, we don’t have to do anything. We can hire somebody to do things for us, And especially if you hire somebody from India, it is cheaper (Laughs). The Euro go long way compare with rupees, you know. But does it? It does not. And I create my karma, and I am responsible. Karma makes us responsible. You know really it is the karma right now it is controlling our life. It is so difficult to change the life what we wanted to change. The stubborn block is the karma. We created, we have no control of it. And the creation of karma is not that difficult. It is not God’s job. We have been doing it all the time. Our ever day actions, mental, physical, emotional actions, is our karma. We are creating karma. Some are complete karma, some are incomplete karma; some are positive, some are negative. And we create all the time. Sitting here talking to you, I am creating karma, listening you create karma, Many of us simultaneously create other karmas because our minds been buzy, going through, you know. And some of us are sitting our body here but our mind is buzy somewhere else. It is wandering what happened to my old Fiat. So we are creating another…Some of us will sit here and listening, ‘how am I going to take profit from some another transaction somewhere else, maybe tomorrow or next day or something. And all of those we are creating all different karmas. Buddha Himself had said, ‘It is more difficult to understand karma than emptiness of Wisdom. That’s why human capacity is such unlimited capacity. We talked to you yesterday. I said how much brain cells that we use it, how much we use it, how much we left it out. If you look in that, you will know. That much complicated, that much sophisticated thing, no one can produce except Karma. And from that angle alone, we know our parents do not manifest us. And what they did was they have sex. And just having sex you cannot make it that much sophisticated thing. How can you, really, think about it. Really think that you know. And that thing have developed you know. Even our intellectual capacities are developed. How much the kids know, and then grown up , and to this level, how long it takes to develop. At the time of having sex, what they did is they donated the gene. And then the mother took care of, nine months inside and then 16, 17 years outside. And that itself will know, they did not manifest you, honestly. Scientists can copy from here and try to say how much you can go. The role model or what you called that basis of scientific experiment things are provided from here. It is karmic production. And its your own production. You made it and you can make a difference too. But we didn’t do it with controlling, and with an idea and control. We couldn’t. This positive karma will store and they will become this and that. And that’s the reason why when you look at the Buddha. Let’s say Buddha is alive. When you look at the Buddha, the Buddha’s body what we are going to have it. We said the Buddha’s body is made out of Love and Compassion. I am not talking about the image. The image is made out of metal. All the paintings, when Marion van der Horst made the paintings, she uses the paint and gold. That’s I am not talking about it. I am talking about the real body of the Buddha is Love and Compassion, is the body. And the Wisdom is mind. That tells us more positive karma we have makes much better, bigger and efficient. And also tells the Wisdom makes the capacity…not capacity but mind itself much knowledgable, knowing and total knowledge. So, please remember that. 1:25:32.9

When we say ‘it is in our hand’, whatever we do in our future, I mean I don’t want to say it, and if I say it people may misunderstand too. But I am almost thinking like you are your own creator. That will be counter culture statement. Counter religion, counter belief, all kinds of things. But you almost have to think that way. Because your brain will tell you that. What else do we have? How do you make your brain? And who made you brain? Who made Buddha? Buddha himself said Buddha is born out of bodhisattva, and bodhimind, and that is ultimate, unlimited , unconditioned Love and Compassion. So we have to think ourself the way beyond this physical bondage we carry. And we have a physical identity. The physical identity carries the limitations, and that becomes bondage for us sometimes. So the liberation means going beyond that. And when we liberate ourself, we have to say ‘To hell with you’, to the physical law of physics. And the way and how we can tell the law of physics ‘to hell with you’, is through our karma, by creating positive karma. So, if you are wise, if you are intelligent, and you should know that. If you don’t try to understand. 1:28:54.4

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